canbelto Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Looks like he has done a mass deleting of his instagram posts. Link to comment
aurora Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 (edited) 44 minutes ago, canbelto said: Looks like he has done a mass deleting of his instagram posts. Someone certainly is--they were deleted back to early 2017 a few min ago, now they are deleted back to nov 2016. The bio is now quite odd as well... It is in Turkish and seems to indicate "Rich" hacked it. Rich is also now the only person Polunin's account follows. Edited January 19, 2019 by aurora Link to comment
Laurent Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 A worthwhile commentary, if you are able to read French, Sergueï Polounine le prince errant de l’âme russe https://www.lecourrierderussie.com/culture/2019/01/serguei-polounine-br-le-prince-errant-de-l-ame-russe/?fbclid=IwAR21s5lGij7denqzVoiS__w-8eLBmdpcAYCE_t8DXjNvWZYKE8JKk2zms7k Link to comment
Helene Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Google translate makes the article quite understandable and even conveys a bit of style. Did I misread the situation at POB? I thought it was his homophobic post about "real men" that was the reason Dupont canned him, not his later post about weight. Link to comment
silvermash Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 it was not specified in the official release. it just talked about the values supported by the institution. Link to comment
cubanmiamiboy Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 21 hours ago, Helene said: The trickier issues are where there is government-required binary gender selection options.. A lifelong of medical career usually places your brain into binary gender mode. You know... working with organs, labs and such. What can I say. Understand that this is really off topic now. My apologies. Back to Polunin. Link to comment
ABT Fan Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 19 hours ago, aurora said: Someone certainly is--they were deleted back to early 2017 a few min ago, now they are deleted back to nov 2016. The bio is now quite odd as well... It is in Turkish and seems to indicate "Rich" hacked it. Rich is also now the only person Polunin's account follows. All of his posts have been deleted now and he’s following no one, not even Rich. Very odd. Link to comment
nanushka Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 19 minutes ago, cubanmiamiboy said: A lifelong of medical career usually places your brain into binary gender mode. You know... working with organs, labs and such. What can I say. Understand that this is really off topic now. My apologies. Back to Polunin. Except "organs, labs and such" are not all — or perhaps even primarily — what gender is actually about. Biological sex, yes. (And even there, there have always been cases that fall outside the binary, as @canbelto notes above.) This is all precisely what Polunin was posting about. Link to comment
cubanmiamiboy Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 1 hour ago, nanushka said: Except "organs, labs and such" are not all — or perhaps even primarily — what gender is actually about. Biological sex, yes. (And even there, there have always been cases that fall outside the binary, as @canbelto notes above.) 😎 Link to comment
balletforme Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 I am so glad that Poulin had consequences for his posts. Link to comment
Deflope Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I know a lot of the Instagram commenters demanded a video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwPzfTymOVc&feature=youtu.be The interviewer was quite direct about his Instagram posts and the Putin tattoo (At one point even asks what a future girlfriend would think when she has to look at it during sex). Polunin comes out sounding rather loopy by talking about energies and other new age babble, but hey, at least we know he isn’t being held hostage by nefarious individuals. Link to comment
l'histoire Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 On 1/16/2019 at 5:22 AM, nanushka said: It seems reasonable to think that many aspects of our identities are culturally constructed, so why should it be just one or the other? Of course many facets of identity are culturally constructed. The IDEA of what a man or woman SHOULD be (you know, "gender") is a cultural construct, which is what I was saying (and I'm not saying you have to pick one or the other, though in functional point of fact, in many places you actually DO have to pick). I wasn't debating the fact that people can feel "in between" (to say the least); I was objecting to the idea that gender - as a construct - is somehow inherent in human existence or linked to what genitals you're born with (it's not). The reason people feel that "people with penises should be like THIS" or "people with vaginas should be like THAT" is a CULTURAL construct. It's not inherent in biology. Link to comment
nanushka Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) I agree on all points, @l'histoire. I guess I was confused. I thought much of that was precisely what was being implied in the post and statement ("Gender is an identity") that you were objecting to ("First of all, gender is not 'an identity,' it's a cultural construct"). Edited January 25, 2019 by nanushka Link to comment
Mashinka Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Seats for Polunin's London performances at the Palladium are selling badly, but in Munich, his western European base, it seems that he still has the backing of director Zelensky. Link to comment
Katia Kapustin Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 I frankly hope the London Palladium cancels his performances! The London audience should make a very strong stance and show their disagreement with what Polunin posted on Instagram. If we just let him get away with it all it sends out the wrong message to our young people: that one can say whatever you want and hurt people along the line, that one does not have to respect others. Polunin...Trump....Putin (his heroes, as Polunin stated on his Instagram account, now deleted) They are BAD examples of intolerance and inciting hatred! Link to comment
Kaysta Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 On 1/20/2019 at 10:01 AM, cubanmiamiboy said: A lifelong of medical career usually places your brain into binary gender mode. You know... working with organs, labs and such. What can I say. Understand that this is really off topic now. My apologies. Back to Polunin. As a pathologist who holds organs in my hands everyday, I disagree with this. A human heart is a human heart. I can’t tell what gender someone is by inspecting their heart. When I’m doing a gross examination of colon cancer, the colon looks identical in both men and women. And given intersex conditions, even the reproductive track may not help me distinguish. Binary gender is set by having hormones produced in the correct ratio, and then strongly influenced by environment and culture. Sorry to be off topic. I am glad to see that Polunin’s posts have been deleted. Link to comment
Mashinka Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 8 hours ago, Katia Kapustin said: I frankly hope the London Palladium cancels his performances! The London audience should make a very strong stance and show their disagreement with what Polunin posted on Instagram. If we just let him get away with it all it sends out the wrong message to our young people: that one can say whatever you want and hurt people along the line, that one does not have to respect others. Polunin...Trump....Putin (his heroes, as Polunin stated on his Instagram account, now deleted) They are BAD examples of intolerance and inciting hatred! These performances are at the end of May, unlikely the theatre will cancel as perhaps not enough time to find other bookings. As many theatre workers are paid by the hour I'd prefer the performances went ahead and that Polunin sees a theatre of empty seats. I am not sure if Polunin's pronouncements could be described as 'hate speech' or simply freedom of speech, the former being a crime in the UK, his suggestions to his followers that they slap fat people is far more serious. I suppose in theory he could be refused a visa, but by the time the inefficient Home Office gets to hear of this he will probably have come and gone. Link to comment
canbelto Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Uh, he's "back" on instagram: Link to comment
balletforme Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Amen. Sounds diagnosable Link to comment
Deflope Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 On the other hand, his upcoming appearance in Munich sold out. It could be that people are more willing to see him in a tried and true show like Spartacus vs one of his vanity projects Osipova and Hallberg’s show is also suffering similar problems in the box office in NY so maybe fans are reluctant after the last two shows with Polunin got lukewarm responses. Which is sad because Osipova was fantastic in both. It’s just the choreo was awful and Polunin really looked like he was phoning it in both times. Link to comment
canbelto Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Dont even know what to say about this. Link to comment
Rock Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Oh gosh. That is so creepy... and so sad. This guy is not well. Link to comment
California Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 20 hours ago, Deflope said: Osipova and Hallberg’s show is also suffering similar problems in the box office in NY ... They have some stiff competition, especially for out-of-towners who might have been tempted to make the trip. NYCB is at the Kennedy Center that week. Washington Ballet has a program of three premieres (yet to be announced), and Pennsylvania Ballet has an all-Stravinsky program (including Apollo and Stravinsky Violin Concerto). Link to comment
Recommended Posts