ivypink Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 I still don't understand why we are so far afield without the moderator stepping in. We should be discussing Joy Womack. Link to comment
Helene Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 I don't understand why you're discussing the discussion. Link to comment
CharlieH Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Just based on the dancing that I've observed with my own two eyes, at Kremlin Ballet in Moscow, Joy Womack is a lovely dancer. I like that she has a distinctive personality and is not a cookie-cutter swan, yet has always been technically adept in what I've seen. I don't understand the negativity but, then again, I do not follow vlogs or any other social media sites of dancers. Link to comment
Buddy Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, CharlieH said: Just based on the dancing that I've observed with my own two eyes, at Kremlin Ballet in Moscow, Joy Womack is a lovely dancer. I like that she has a distinctive personality and is not a cookie-cutter swan, yet has always been technically adept in what I've seen. I don't understand the negativity but, then again, I do not follow vlogs or any other social media sites of dancers. I haven't followed Joy Womack that closely and like you I haven't seen much of the social media comments. I did see one video clip that I liked very much. Charlie, since you were based in Moscow for four years, maybe you would care to do some posting at the Bolshoi topic. I was at the Bolshoi theater for the first time last year and it was the best that I've ever seen the company. Perhaps being on their own stage can make a difference and you might be able to tell us about this. You can always start your own topic at the Bolshoi topic space. Edited August 8, 2017 by Buddy Last sentence added Link to comment
CharlieH Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Buddy, I'll be happy to oblige as time passes. Retirement is turning out to be busier than I had expected but I'll try to read new posts regularly and, when appropriate, chime in. Link to comment
wonderwall Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 In her newest vlog (How To Read the Signs that it's Time to Move On), she seems like she wants to move on but is still holding onto the Kremlin at the same time. She also talks about how was has been treated there since she got back. It honestly just doesn't seem to be a good fit, but I can understand wanting to feel safe and not risking losing a job in Moscow. Link to comment
PeggyTulle Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Watching that vlog, I'm amazed she still HAS a job. In the States, if you publicly badmouth your employer, that's it. You're done. Ta-ta. And she's done it time and time again, but upset that others badmouth her privately. Link to comment
CharlieH Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 According to her Instagram, Joy was in my neck of the woods (DC) last week, taking class with The Washington Ballet. Don't want to read much into this but... https://www.instagram.com/p/BYqsSm7nkoy/?taken-by=joy.Womack Link to comment
Kaysta Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 According to her Instagram, she has accepted a position at Universal Ballet in South Korea. Link to comment
vipa Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 On 9/19/2017 at 10:44 AM, Nzoia said: I wonder if she has given up the Kremlin, or whether she is a dual principal at the Kremlin and Universal. Does anyone know? Interesting that Sarah Lane posted on instagram that she'll be guesting with the Kremlin on Sept. 20 doing O/O Link to comment
LadyBubbles Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Actually, Sarah will be part of the International Ballet Festival at the Kremlin Palace. Starting today until Sept. 29 there will be a different production performed every day. All the principal roles are done by guests (Polina Semionova and Nicoletta Manni are among them, and of course Sarah Lane will be there for Swan Lake next Friday. Lane will be dancing with Vadim Muntagirov from the Royal Ballet). Anyway, Lane's (and everybody else's) show has nothing to do with the current or future tenure status of anyone from the Kremlin Ballet, so not really relevant to Womack's relationship (or lack thereof, should that be the case) with the theater. For more info: http://kremlinpalace.org/en/content/calendar http://kremlinpalace.org/en/events/vi-international-ballet-festival-kremlin-swan-lake Link to comment
vipa Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Thanks for the clarification LadyBubbles. And I meant Sept 29 Link to comment
dancemom101 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Joy just posted a photo on her FB, thanking Kremlin ballet for the memories and support. "I'll carry the experiences with me into the next chapter!" and appears to be on her way to NY. Link to comment
dancemom101 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) Apologies, I see Joy's latest news was already reported by another posted. Edited October 3, 2017 by dancemom101 remove-someone already posted the news Link to comment
Fleurfairy Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Given her employment history, I highly doubt any major American company would want her. If she did come back to the US, it would probably be as a traveling guest artist like Adiarys Almeida. We'll see how she does in South Korea. I can't picture her being any happier there either. Link to comment
mnacenani Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 (edited) Joy Womack was due to dance Aurora with the Istanbul State Ballet this past Wednesday. Kuznetsova posted a review on the Kremlin Festival last week with the sarcastic observation that "Sarah Lane becoming a principal shows what a wonderful land of opportunity the US is" ! I regret very much I could not see Adiarys Almeida (my Zaharova Cubana) dance Kitri on 28th September - I was in Moscow but booked for something else. Kuznetsova wrote somewhat nice things about her I was told. Edited October 20, 2017 by mnacenani Link to comment
Helene Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 [Admin beanie on] No hearsay or second-hand reports. If friends or consultants want to report on what they've seen, they can register and post themselves. [Admin beanie off] Link to comment
alexL Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Korea's Universal Ballet is financially backed by the Unification Church(they have the ownership of the ballet company to be exact) so if high salary is what Womack wants, they can afford it. There are several former Vaganova graduates and Mariinsky dancers in Universal Ballet (Konstantin Novoselov, Anna Tolmacheva, Yekaterina Krasyuk). Semion Chudin also had danced at Universal Ballet early in his career. Link to comment
dancemom101 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Joy is not listed on Universal Ballet's website (that I can see). Is she still joining? I see she is guesting with multiple companies. Link to comment
ClaraFan Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 In Doha, Qatar right now. Looks like more guesting. Seams like a great experience in a way, but all that travel would get tiring. Link to comment
wonderwall Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) Joy did an hour-long interview with a podcast done by the dance network. She mentions she will be starting with Universal Ballet on January 22nd. A few interesting tidbits/markers: 18:00 min: She addresses the whole "first American" at the Vaganova 18 minutes in. 36:00 min: Leaving Bolshoi Ballet 43:00 min: Reactions to her videos at the Kremlin (mentions those in the Corp there were often not motivated) 47:00 min: Mentions having done auditions before getting the over at Universal Ballet, which she found humbling. She says that Julie Kent couldn't give her a place at the Washington Ballet. Here is the youtube video of the interview (also shows her as it was filmed): Edited January 17, 2018 by wonderwall Link to comment
Kaysta Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Interesting. She said she wanted to come back to America to dance (even if it was in the corps) and didn't get any takers (she specifically mentions ABT and Washington Ballet, but I wonder who else she reached out to?). I think she is a lovely dancer, and is certainly talented enough to dance with many companies in the US. Was she turned down because they think she'll be a distraction? Link to comment
Deflope Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 She was in Atlanta and Houston so maybe she tried out there. She also did an Instagram livestream where she mentioned sending applications to La Scala and the Royal Danish Ballet but not getting any responses. I do wonder if she realized she needed to play nicer. This interview seemed to be an attempt to clear the air in regards to many of the controversies surrounding her. Link to comment
vipa Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 There is also the matter of fitting into the look of a company and being adaptable in terms of their rep. I've never seen Womack live. On video I've only seen her doing very classical parts, and in those I think she's quite competent. I don't know how she'd fare going from Balanchine to Peck to Crystal Pite to Wheeldon etc. I also don't know how well she would cope with dancing in a group whether corps or as a soloist. I may be wrong, but to me she always seemed pretty set in her ways in terms of performing. It's hard for me to imagine her working with a choreographer. Again, I've never seen her live and I have limited knowledge, it's just my impression. Link to comment
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