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Nagahisa and Caixeta (who did not study at Vaganova) to "represent" the Mariinsky at Bolshoi Ballet (tv show).

 

 

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Arte is airing a live performance of Raymonda on Monday 28 May starting at 16:00 London time (19:00 Petersburg time). Terioshkina as Raymonda and Xander Parish as Jean de Brienne. Gergiev conducting.

 

 

What a TRAVESTY of a casting. In which world is Terioshkina a delicate princess? And Parish as Jean de Brienne? No comments. 

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I can’t agree with you about Tereshkina. (And I’m also not sure everyone agrees that Raymonda has to be “delicate.”  Nureyev once said Raymonda was a “bitch” — in any case she is not simply Aurora 2.0.)

I don’t think Tereshkina dances like a “delicate” Princess OR a “bitch” — In D.C., in October, I found her a great classical ballerina who brought tremendous plasticity, musicality, and authority to Nikiya. I don’t think video always captures the nuances of her dancing or the intensity of her stage presence which were also very evident when I finally saw her dance a classical ballerina role live. Raymonda is a different role from Nikiya, but all those qualities matter to it. I would be happy to see Tereshkina’s Raymonda. 

I believe dancers can be miscast...but I don’t believe there is only one way to dance great ballets. For my taste, that would be swinging the pendulum too far in the other direction. 

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Raymonda is a maiden in distress, Raymonda, Countess de Doris, is happily waiting for her wedding, waiting for her fiancee to come back and then it's almost kidnapped just to be saved at the last minute, definitely not princess Aurora and definitely not Nikiya.

 

Fine if you enjoy Terioshkina's dancing, I can't stand it and consider it a serious offense to classicism. Of course there is not only ONE way of playing Raymonda and the Mariinsky has several great classical ballerinas who can offer very diferent, rich, nuanced and appropiate portrayals, there is not ONE way of playing Raymonda but there is a pattern that should be followed because Raymonda IS a princess, she's not Nikiya, she's not Gamzatti and she's not Kitri. What Rudolph Nureyev said of Raymonda only shows his ignorance towards the libretto. 

 

But that is the only direction in which the pendulum is swinging at the Mariinsky : Towards the destruction of classicism and good taste.  Yuri Fateyev has achieved that.

 

 

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Terioshkina is a magnificent Raymonda...the current best a the Mariinsky with the possible exception of Novikova, who has already been filmed in the lovely Vikharev recon. at La Scala. Hence, I’m delighted that Terioshkina will now be professionally filmed in this ballet. 

As for the Mariinsky’s representatives in the tv competition...”no comment” as Gnossie says. 

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The greatest affront is having Gergiev conducting. He doesn't know how to conduct ballet, he never knows the choreography, and he makes life impossible for dancers by giving them ridiculous tempi. However unfortunate the casting may be (Xander Parish? :wallbash:), Gergiev makes it that much worse. But if the Mariinsky is okay with its dancers looking bad on international TV because of the unqualified conductor... :dunno:

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10 hours ago, Gnossie said:

Arte is airing a live performance of Raymonda on Monday 28 May starting at 16:00 London time (19:00 Petersburg time). Terioshkina as Raymonda and Xander Parish as Jean de Brienne. Gergiev conducting.

After looking for it for quite some time (not shown on Arte TV programs for today) found it on Arte Concert France website. The German website is not streaming this so it will most probably be restricted to France :

https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/082954-000-A/raymonda-de-marius-petipa-au-theatre-mariinsky/

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On ‎5‎/‎20‎/‎2018 at 8:55 AM, mnacenani said:

Albrecht can be blonde but Jizel never !!  👎

Giselle was made specifically for a certain Carlotta Grisi, who became an icon of Romantic ballet and up to this day remains an unsurpassed Giselle. She was blonde and had blue eyes. There are many witnesses in French sources, I select one in English,

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Mademoiselle Carlotta Grisi is a most lovely and loveable blonde ; her soft blue eyes are delightfully expressive

(The New Monthly Magazine (London), 1847, p.338)

This is perfectly in line with the fact that the tale about the "wilis" is Western Slavic in origin. Heinrich Heine who inspired Théophile Gautier, the author of the libretto, both were great poets, places it somewhere in Silesia. The word "wilis" is the German plural or Western slavic "wil", "wila", which means a ghostly creature, often with connotations of madness, into which maiden girls turned after their untimely deaths.

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On 5/27/2018 at 3:46 PM, Gnossie said:

Raymonda is a maiden in distress, Raymonda, Countess de Doris, is happily waiting for her wedding, waiting for her fiancee to come back and then it's almost kidnapped just to be saved at the last minute, definitely not princess Aurora and definitely not Nikiya.

 

Fine if you enjoy Terioshkina's dancing, I can't stand it and consider it a serious offense to classicism.

How? She's not the most lyrical dancer but her technique is extremely strong. And Raymonda's not delicate. The first Raymonda Pierina Legnani certainly wasn't delicate. She's supposed to be a headstrong princess.

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There’s a video clip now of a duet from Raymonda with Viktoria Tereshkina and Super Xander (actually in his cape there might be a resemblance). Both look great.

In recent video clips she looks as lovely as I’ve ever seen her. Her dance is beautiful and she’s showing a lovely subtlety of facial expression. A new and even more beautiful Viktoria Tereshkina, perhaps.

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41 minutes ago, Buddy said:

In recent video clips she looks as lovely as I’ve ever seen her. Her dance is beautiful and she’s showing a lovely subtlety of facial expression

Are you referring to Henrietta ??  :P

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11 hours ago, mnacenani said:

Are you referring to Henrietta ??  :P

Been waiting for you, this time.

There go the goal posts again. Haven't seen Henrietta. Was she 'Remarkably-Incredibly-Beautiful' as well. But, if Gediminas Taranda  had been there he would have run off with the lot of them.

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Wait, Giselle takes place in Germany. There are certainly many blondes in Germany. And there have been many great blond Giselles.

Natalia Makarova:

Gelsey Kirkland:

Ekaterina Osmolkina:

Elisabeth Maurin:

 

There are many other examples. 

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LOL, now Raymonda is supposed to be a headstrong princess, LOL. 

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Tereshkina received tons of praise last times in America. I saw her O/O which was magnificent. Is that not classical?

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I don't care if Tereshkina or any other dancer receives praise in America, Brazil or China, I'm very glad that you like her, I don't like her and never will. 

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Giselle takes place in Germany.

Not exactly. It takes place in Silesia (souwestern Poland), where, by the way, the Western Slavic word "wil/wila" has originated, as Heinrich Heine mentions in his  "beau livre de l'Allemagne", and it survived in literary language up to this day.

This is what Théophile Gautier, the author of the libretto of Giselle, says in his long article published a week after Giselle's première representation that took place on Carlotta Grisi's 22nd birthday.

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Pour plus de liberté, l'action se passe dans une contrée vague en Silésie… Loys ou plutôt le duc Albrecht de Silésie… Les chasseurs accourent, Bathilde et le prince de Courlande sortent de la chaumière et s’étonnent de voir le duc Albrecht de Silésie sous un pareil déguisement…

"Loys" is the name by which Albrecht makes himself known to Giselle (I wonder how many of you know this, by the way). In any case, in that part of Europe "blonde" and "blue/green-eyed" is something to be expected of a young girl. Giselle is most certainly not associated with the southern, Mediterranean, look.

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39 minutes ago, Laurent said:

(I wonder how many of you know this, by the way).

You'd be surprised. :dry:

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On 5/27/2018 at 3:46 PM, Gnossie said:

What Rudolph Nureyev said of Raymonda only shows his ignorance towards the libretto. 

 

13 hours ago, Gnossie said:

LOL, now Raymonda is supposed to be a headstrong princess, LOL. 

The Raymonda original libretto is one I've never read. Does anyone know if it's available anywhere online? I'm curious how and whether the text itself speaks to this question of her characterization.

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Raymonda takes its inspiration from a French « roman de chevalerie ». The female protagonists of such chivalric romances had noble feelings and thoughts, were pure of heart, and delicate of demeanor. I invite you to taste what kind of persons they were by spending an evening with a sample work of that genre. If you are unable to follow the medieval French or the language of Provence, locate a quality English translation. There are some, my recommendation goes with those published in the 19th century in England. It's worth it. It will provide you with a greater appreciation of the ballet next time you see it.

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On 5/25/2018 at 10:01 AM, Gnossie said:

Nagahisa and Caixeta (who did not study at Vaganova) to "represent" the Mariinsky at Bolshoi Ballet (tv show).

 

 

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DISGRACEFUL!!!   Mariinsky represented by non Vaganova dancers?  Ridiculous.  

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Not as disgraceful or ridiculous as a non-Vaganova dancer heading the Vaganova Academy.

Otherwise, I watched a couple of clips from Nagahisa, and I find her quite interesting, she has a lot of charm and her technique is sound. I will enjoy watching Bolshoi Ballet with participants like that. I think the importance of the link between Vaganova and the Mariinsky has been overblown. The Mariinsky is a company with an international renown, and really made a splash as innovators when they became the first Russian company to dabble in the works of American choreographers, so some crossover in style and talent is good for them.

But, of course, I would also like it to continue being the bearer and keeper of the St. Petersburg style, so a core group of style-keepers within the company is essential. I just wonder who they are these days, now that Lopatkina has retired, and Diana Vishneva spends more time on her own international projects than dancing at the theater. 

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I think the link between Vaganova and Mariinsky is of the utmost importance.  Mariinsky needs to keep the purity of its style, and it needs its Vaganova graduates to do that. As for who is the bearer and keeper of the St Petersburg style ... Osmolkina?  Filipp Stepin among the men.  

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Osmolkina looks a bit clumsy for my taste. So does Yana Selina. My picks from among Vaganova graduates who are still active at the theater would be Novikova and Svetlana Ivanova. As for the men, why Stepin when you have Shklyarov?

I hope they quickly find some role for Lopatkina. She would be the perfect rector for the Academy. And Tsikaridze can focus on becoming a TV star.

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3 hours ago, MadameP said:

I think the link between Vaganova and Mariinsky is of the utmost importance.  Mariinsky needs to keep the purity of its style, and it needs its Vaganova graduates to do that. As for who is the bearer and keeper of the St Petersburg style ... Osmolkina?  Filipp Stepin among the men.  

Absolutely agree. 

Osmolkina is the purest representer of the Vaganova style, and so is Obraztsova even if she is at the Bolshoi now, Ostreikovskaya although a Perm product, represents the Mariinskly style. The only Prima of the company that does represent the Vaganova style is Madame Pavlenko (her Saint Petersburg haters can go to hell, thanks all the best!)

Among the men, Steppin is the only one to be considered Baranov's heir, a true prince.

Yermakov is Ruzimatov's heir. 

Sergeyev (should have been promoted 50 years ago) and Batalov (I'm crying right now) are also pure Vaganova style. 

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