Drew Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 (edited) Kennedy Center honorees announced-- Norman Lear, Lionel Ritchie, Gloria Estafan, LL Cool J, and Carmen de Lavallade. Two very different articles reflecting on the announcement: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/03/us/politics/kennedy-center-arts-honors-trump.html?_r=0 "In an era of immigration crackdowns, racial tensions and budgetary battles over eliminating arts endowments, this year’s Kennedy Center honorees appear to be divided on how best to respond to the honor." https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/the-kennedy-center-honors-abandon-the-arts-for-pop-culture/2017/08/02/0287e65c-77a0-11e7-8f39-eeb7d3a2d304_story.html?utm_term=.bdd4b23aace2 "...only dancer and choreographer Carmen de Lavallade falls into the tradition of the arts on which the Kennedy Center was founded and built its reputation." Edited August 4, 2017 by Drew Link to comment
sandik Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 A more straightforward article from Broadway World Link to comment
sandik Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Re the WaPo article -- I didn't realize that Phillip Glass and John Adams hadn't recieved awards, not to mention Kathleen Battle and Samuel Ramey. Those do seem like deficits. Link to comment
lmspear Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 (edited) They haven't gotten around to Mark Morris, Bernadette Peters, Emmanuel Ax, Frank Langella, Cynthia Gregory . . . I could go on ad nauseum. Here's the link to past Honors web site https://www.kennedy-center.org/pages/specialevents/honors/ You can find the list of honorees by selecting "History" from the drop down menu in the upper right-hand corner. I'm looking at this on my phone and it may display differently on other devices. Edited August 4, 2017 by lmspear Link to comment
dirac Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 The omission of Glass has received a fair bit of comment in recent years, given that he's getting up there in age. Of course, Norman Lear is 95. Thank you for posting the topic and the links, Drew. Kennicott's opinion piece for the Post is generally on target.There is nothing wrong with a mix of popular and high art, but this year in particular is completely lacking in balance. For example, Renee Fleming is retiring from opera (not performing). It would have been a fine year to honor a great American classical star at a time when she is still in wonderful voice. Link to comment
maps Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Odd no Fleming [affiliated with the KC], Gregory, Glass, Langella, etc. Link to submission form for Honors Recommendation: https://www.kennedy-center.org/pages/SpecialEvents/HonorsRecommendation Link to comment
canbelto Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 (edited) Um well many KC award winners might not want to accept the award if it means going to the WH. Sad but true. I know I wouldn't go. Edited August 4, 2017 by canbelto Link to comment
Drew Posted August 5, 2017 Author Share Posted August 5, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, canbelto said: Um well many KC award winners might not want to accept the award if it means going to the WH. Sad but true. I know I wouldn't go. My understanding from the articles is that Lear is accepting the award but not going to the White House. So that's an option. Edited August 5, 2017 by Drew Link to comment
sandik Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 22 hours ago, canbelto said: Um well many KC award winners might not want to accept the award if it means going to the WH. Sad but true. I know I wouldn't go. And does anyone here know anything about the process -- has anyone ever refused the award? Link to comment
sandik Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 17 hours ago, Drew said: My understanding from the articles is that Lear is accepting the award but not going to the White House. So that's an option. But will he go to the theater -- that's where most of us see them. Link to comment
lmspear Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 If he's accepted the award he'll be at the theater. The White House portion of the event is a small reception with the honorees and their personal guests, mainly a photo-op. The big social event of the weekend is a banquet at the State Department. Link to comment
Jayne Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 I think they should go, and speak their minds. This is a platform with great media attention, glamour, and prestige. Use it to defend the arts! Link to comment
Drew Posted August 6, 2017 Author Share Posted August 6, 2017 11 hours ago, Jayne said: I think they should go, and speak their minds. This is a platform with great media attention, glamour, and prestige. Use it to defend the arts! Estafan has said she plans to tell Trump her thoughts about the contribution immigrants have made to the nation. Perhaps the others can point out that it's ballet, modern dance, opera, theater, and concert music that really need support ... Link to comment
dirac Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 It would be most effective if nobody showed up at the White House, but per the NYT article, Richie is an old buddy of Trump's and LL Cool J's view can be summed up as "This isn't about him, it's about me and I'm going to enjoy it." Link to comment
lmspear Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Carmen de Lavallade has announced that she will skip the White House reception. https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/17/arts/kennedy-center-honors-trump.html Link to comment
kfw Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Trump and Melania will not participate in this year’s Kennedy Center Honors, “to allow the honorees to celebrate without any political distraction.” Link to comment
canbelto Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Probably the best decision for all involved. Link to comment
dirac Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Indeed. After Charlottesville the position of the African-American honorees, particularly, shifted from "difficult" into "near-impossible." Link to comment
ABT Fan Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Trump declines invitation to attend Kennedy Center Honors: The Trumps Bow Out. Will Future Presidents Attend the Kennedy Center Honors?https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/27/arts/trump-kennedy-center-honors.html Link to comment
sandik Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 4 hours ago, ABT Fan said: Trump declines invitation to attend Kennedy Center Honors: The Trumps Bow Out. Will Future Presidents Attend the Kennedy Center Honors?https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/27/arts/trump-kennedy-center-honors.html Some thoughtful analysis. I didn't realize that all the living former first ladies were still on committee for the Kennedy Center. Link to comment
dirac Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Culture is a girl thing. Interesting that Mrs. Trump is also a no-show, since as the article points out past presidents who didn't attend sent their wives instead. I do not think she would receive a hostile reception. However, to date she hasn't shown much enthusiasm for her "job," not that I blame her in any way whatsoever, so maybe this is just a good excuse to skip it. Link to comment
sandik Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I haven't really been following along with Melania Trump, but it seems to me that she is far less public than recent first ladies. Even if you don't consider Michelle Obama, who made the position her job, I remember seeing Laura Bush and Hillary Clinton out and about more often than MT. She will be going to the Invictus Games later this year, but otherwise, I don't know how public her events are. Link to comment
dirac Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 The Kennedy Center Honors don't honor athletes - not yet, anyway . There's really nothing to stop Mrs. Trump from attending if she were so inclined; as I said upthread, I don't think she would receive a hostile reception if she were to change her mind and attend - just the opposite, in fact. Herb Alpert weighs in: Quote “I feel like we’re in a funny place right now in this country and in the world,” he says. His voice rising, he cites as an example President Trump’s decision not to attend the Kennedy Center Honors, which celebrates American performing artists. “You think, ‘Holy moly, man, is that the type of world we’re in right now, where our political system and the guys that are in control are not honoring the arts, which we need so desperately to identify who we are and keep things going?” You could argue that if Trump were to attend the KCH, his appearance there would basically be an exercise in irony, since he wants to eliminate the NEH and the NEA and has never shown any interest in art or the arts beyond purchasing portraits of himself with his foundation's money. On the other hand, a symbolic honor from the president may be better than no recognition at all (?) Link to comment
canbelto Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 I saw the honors on TV tonight. I loved the tribute to LL Cool J -- it had some of the raw energy that was totally appropriate for the hip hop pioneer. This was hip hop before autotune. I also loved the tribute to the ever-gorgeous Carmen de Lavallade although I wish there could have been some context for her tribute -- like did they even mentioned she was an original member of Alvin Ailey? The tribute to Norman Lear had me thinking of how members of the Bunker family would have reacted to Trump. Archie might have supported him, Edith/Gloria/Meathead definitely wouldn't have. Link to comment
abatt Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 As previously mentioned Copeland and R. Fairchild were part of the de Lavallade tribute. In addition, Stella Abrera did a pdd with Broadway star Brandon Victor Dixon. Also, Alicia Graf Mack, Matthew Rushing and Linda Celeste Sims did part of the Wade in the Water segment from Ailey's Revelations. Link to comment
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