Lynette H Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 A biography of the skater John Curry is published on 31 July. Alone: The Triumph and Tragedy of John Curry by Bill Jones. There was a review in the Sunday Times, but it's behind a paywall. A sad story. Link to comment
sandik Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Thanks for the heads-up -- I'll look for the book at the end of the month. I still remember the Faun that Tharp made for him. One of the most compelling movement works ever, on any surface... Link to comment
Helene Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Is that different from Norman Maen's "Faun"? I realize this is from the Daily Maul, but I'm not sure what the quality will be: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2706296/Why-Britain-s-skating-golden-boy-died-lonely-bitter-broke-John-Curry-captivated-world-But-new-biography-reveals-bullying-father-wicked-taunts-sexuality-scarred-life.html Link to comment
sandik Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Oh dear, this is an example of why you shouldn't depend on your memory alone! It's Tharp, and it's Curry, but it's not Debussy -- it's Albinoni’s Concerto for Trumpet in B flat. After All Link to comment
dirac Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Not a lot of new information for followers of Curry’s career, if the Daily Mail article is accurate. The bitterness was evident quite early on and not without reason – Curry had a tough time ascending to the peak of his sport and by the time it happened it was a bit late and didn’t give him much time to do what he really wanted to do. Added to that a troubled family background and personality issues and you got an extremely difficult and unpredictable boss inclined to take his frequent mood swings out on his skaters. Psychiatric help and possibly medication were probably in order but I don’t think he ever sought it seriously. His Olympic LP remains marvelous to see, although it is very evidently skating from another era. Particularly touching because he looks so free and so happy to be out there, which is not always true of other footage I’ve seen. His attempts to impose the structure and ethos of a dance company on a skating troupe were interesting experiments. Possibly if Curry had had a better head for business his troupes might have survived longer than they did, but Iin the long run I don't think the formula would have worked out. At least his skaters did get a taste of working with artists they probably never would have encountered save for Curry’s ambitions. Peter Martins once did a witty little routine for Curry and Jo Jo Starbuck, "Tango-Tango," which is available on the old video of "Ice Dancing." Thanks for the heads-up about the book, Lynette. Should be interesting reading. Link to comment
GianninaM Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Both film clips are amazing! Such grace, strength, control. Link to comment
Helene Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 "After All" is a beautiful piece. Two of the most prolific, influential, and eminent skating choreographers, Sarah Kawahara and Lori Nichol skated with Curry. Ballet dancer/skaters like Foulkes performed with him, and aside from the guests like Hamill, the company members took on the challenge of performing elements in both directions and skating to an exacting standard. Diana Adams', Margot Fonteyn's,and Yuri Soloviev's dancing looks like it's from another era, but like Curry's skating, displays the best virtues of their respective disciplines. According to the linked article, the book uses his letters as a source and/or quotes them, and these are newly released. The arc of the story was scattered among sources available for those who cared enough to follow, with much reading between the lines. I'm interest in seeing how they were used and, hopefully, in hearing his own voice in them. Link to comment
Drew Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Peter Martins once did a witty little routine for Curry and Jo Jo Starbuck, "Tango-Tango," which is available on the old video of "Ice Dancing." It's one of the pieces that I remember, if only a little, from his shows (I saw two of them)--I found it rather a highlight. Link to comment
dirac Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 The arc of the story was scattered among sources available for those who cared enough to follow, with much reading between the lines. There was an earlier book. I don't think it was all that hard to know the general outlines of Curry's ( mostly sad) story, at least for skating fans who followed his career, but that's IMO. Tango-Tango survived to make it into some of Curry's later shows. I would have liked to have seen it live. I tend to like Curry skating Curry best - I think the tape of his Olympic SP to Scheherazade, which he also performed in Ice Dancing and later, is extraordinary in its intensity, such beautiful skating. To this day I don't understand why other skaters bother using the music. (Unfortunately he chose to get an unflattering perm that year, in the belief that it would minimize his slenderness, and it makes him look kind of like Barbra in "A Star is Born," although at least he eschewed her peasant tops.) I still have Keith Money's book somewhere, which has some nice photos of his British skating show. It was during the run of that show that he fell victim to that ghastly mugging. Curry had some awful luck...... Link to comment
Bill Jones Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Hi....I hope you don't mind hearing from me. My name is Bill Jones. I'm the author of ALONE - THE TRIUMPH AND TRAGEDY OF JOHN CURRY. I'm truly delighted (as he would have been) that members of the dance community have heard about the book. As you know, from the age of 7, all he wanted to do was dance. But for his father's intransigence he would have pursued his passion for ballet. Ice skating, and his brilliant subversion of an entire sport, was an act of revenge against that childhood slight. Work on the book has taken me three years, and I've spoken to well over 100 people to draw together the strands of his deeply complex personality, and his brilliant, creative life. Hopefully the result will inspire people, but it will sadden them too, as John's journey is a lonely, often unhappy one....from the fear of his own teenage sexuality to his death of AIDS, aged just 44, in 1994. Thankfully, I'm already getting some fantastic reviews (The Sunday T iMessage especially) but that only matters if people read it and remind themselves how original an innovative he actually was. All the very best. Bill Jones, North Yorkshire, England. PS The book is published in the USA in January 2015. Link to comment
Helene Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 For those of us who won't wait that long, amazon.uk will ship to the US, amazon.com has third-party sellers (currently UK, France,and Florida) with offers, and, for those who prefer e-books, amazon.com is selling on Kindle, while taking pre-orders for physical book. Curry's company performances at the Met in the '80's were among the greatest performances of anything I've ever seen. I've gone the Kindle route and have started to read the book. Link to comment
Bill Jones Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Yes. That's right. Amazon will ship anywhere. Lots of folks are buying this in the USA already and getting shipped over. Enjoy. Link to comment
Helene Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 The way he treated coaches was difficult enough, but the way he treated his company members was downright brutal. He and Jerome Robbins had much in common in that respect. Link to comment
dirac Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 A new documentary inspired by Jones' book is released. Quote Erksine’s film contains rare and unseen footage of some of Curry’s remarkable ice routines. There are also archive interviews with those who knew the skater well, including the leading coach Christa Fassi, who helped train Curry once he left England for Colorado, and with those skaters he influenced, such as the former British champion Robin Cousins. Link to comment
sandik Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Glad to hear about this, especially the old footage. I'm hoping this gets to my city early on. Link to comment
vagansmom Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) Ah, Robin Cousins. He was one of the Big Three in my mind: the triumvirate of male artistic figure skating from a bygone era. First, to my mind, there was Toller Cranston, then John Curry, followed by Robin Cousins. I adored Curry's work, but as someone else stated, I liked Curry skating to his own choreography best. Looking forward to reading your book, Mr. Jones. Edited January 29, 2018 by vagansmom Link to comment
dirac Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 I too am a Cousins fan. Close to the perfect combination of finesse and physical daring, with jumps that were advanced for his day. In his pro days he had a cool full layout back-flip, which looked pretty awesome on a six-footer. He has had interesting things to say about Curry in the past. ( I’d like to see him get his own documentary if only for the sake of the footage but that is most unlikely to happen.) Link to comment
Helene Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Although Cousins' jump content at the 1980 Olympics was the same as Curry's in the 1976 Olympics: Triple To, Triple Salchow, Triple Loop. Cousins attempted to repeat a triple, but it was a flawed jump. Link to comment
dirac Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Cousins had all the triples, not only the ones he did in competition. In those days, of course, you didn’t need all of them to win. In practice he was also doing triple axels in combinations. (All of this on two bum knees; he abjured the triple axel entirely after a stress fracture.) Cousins did five triples in his ’76 Olympics LP and planned five for 1980 as well, but it didn’t work out that way. If I recall correctly he did the five triples later, at Worlds. Also set two Guinness records for jumping distance. Link to comment
Buddy Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) Which in no way compares to my half turn waltz jump, single turn flip, 1/10 of a turn loop combination that I've been perfecting for at least ten years. I'm also working on a documentary, but I've yet to find a cameraman. If so I'll try to post it. Added: John Curry was a remarkable Artist from what I've seen. I don't really follow the events anymore as ballet has become my primary spectator love in this area. Is there anyone doing this kind of fine artistry now ? Edited February 4, 2018 by Buddy Link to comment
dirac Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 I have only just now got around to reading "Alone," and while the main arc of Curry's story and other details were indeed not new (to me) there was ample material that wasn't. Even if that hadn't been the case, the book would have been well worth reading for its own sake, easily one of the best accounts of an athlete's life I've come across. Link to comment
dirac Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Curry performing Tharp's Three Fanfares at the 1980 Olympic exhibition skate, followed by Hamill skating to...Chuck Mangione. Link to comment
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