YouOverThere Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 My arm got twisted into attending the Mark Morris/Silk Road Ensemble production of Layla and Majnun at the Kennedy Center last night (3/23). I simply do not understand the critics' fascination with Mark Morris. I found it, like most of the other Mark Morris works that I've watched, to be a big nothingburger - simplistic, repetitious choreography set to droning, repetitious Middle Eastern music - but a google search found lots of fawning reviews (including in the Washington Post). For the most part, the show consisted of 2 dancers - playing Layla and Majnun (the program had 5 parts, and a different pair of dancers played the lead characters in each part) - dancing at the same time but not together, while 10 other dancers milled about or sat or lounged on the stage (which I found distracting). I didn't see anything particularly challenging - I've seen student productions at local colleges that looked more difficult than this. I found the story impossible to follow without reference to the supertitles (the singing was in Azerbaijani). Even my accomplice, who in general likes Mark Morris, conceded that the program was "20 minutes of dance stretched out to an hour". What don't I get? Link to comment
sandik Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 In a way, Morris resembles Balanchine in that he is very influenced by the music he uses -- if you don't like the score, you probably won't like the dance. His critics used to complain that he was too wedded to the music, but I think that was partially a reaction to his context. Coming from the downtown dance scene he was working among artists who were not especially interested in musicality. He's always reminded me of his modern dance heritage -- I see Graham and Humphrey in his work often, alongside the folkdance influences. The dancing is difficult (I took a couple of workshops back in my dancey days, and what might seem simple on the surface is rhythmically quite subtle) but it doesn't have a conventional virtuosity -- the biggest skills are in working with the group. For me, one of the satisfying aspects of the work is its structural integrity. I see a great deal of dancing that doesn't seem to start at the start and doesn't know how to finish at the end -- I never find that with Morris' choreography. If I may ask, what other work of his have you seen? Link to comment
YouOverThere Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 6 hours ago, sandik said: If I may ask, what other work of his have you seen? Mark Morris Dance appears at George Mason University yearly (except this year), so I've seen whatever they've presented since 2015. I never cared to remember what the names of the pieces were. Link to comment
dirac Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 The best case for the defense is Joan Acocella's book. Croce also admired his early work. On occasion I have thought that Morris follows the music rather literally in a way I don't associate with Balanchine. (I also find it irksome the way he goes on and on about his own musicality in interviews, also something I don't associate with Balanchine, but I try not to let that affect my judgment.) Haven't seen the company for some time. I enjoyed some of the short works he's done for San Francisco Ballet. The evening-length Sylvia he did for the company received considerable praise but I thought it weak. Link to comment
sandik Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 7 hours ago, YouOverThere said: Mark Morris Dance appears at George Mason University yearly (except this year), so I've seen whatever they've presented since 2015. I never cared to remember what the names of the pieces were. I ask only because I think there are some of his works that are more in tune with a classical aesthetic and thought they might resonate with you. I've been watching him since the very early days, since he's often in Seattle, and I've always loved the big classical works like Gloria and L'Allegro. 47 minutes ago, dirac said: (I also find it irksome the way he goes on and on about his own musicality in interviews, also something I don't associate with Balanchine, but I try not to let that affect my judgment.) It's ironical -- I think he winds up talking about this aspect of his work so often because he's asked the same questions so often, in part based in that Croce article way back when. Link to comment
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YouOverThere Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 5 hours ago, sandik said: I ask only because I think there are some of his works that are more in tune with a classical aesthetic and thought they might resonate with you. I've been watching him since the very early days, since he's often in Seattle, and I've always loved the big classical works like Gloria and L'Allegro. No big works - always 3 or 4 pieces/program. Link to comment
sandik Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 3 hours ago, YouOverThere said: No big works - always 3 or 4 pieces/program. I don't want to push, but if you get the chance to see L'Allegro or Mozart Dances, you might enjoy it more than you think. Link to comment
Kathleen O'Connell Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 I'm a Mark Morris fangirl, but I confess that I wanted to see Layla and Majnun for the music — and most specifically for the opportunity to hear Alim Qasimov and his daughter Fergana Qasimova. (Alas, the calendar was working against me and I wasn't able to catch any of the NYC performances.) You can listen to the Qasimovs in performance on Spotify here. I think it's really beautiful, but of course your mileage may vary. And yes, I think L'Allegro is a good place to start with Morris. PBS recorded a performance as part of its Great Performances series, and made it available for viewing online. BUT NOTE: TODAY (March 26 2018) IS THE LAST DAY THAT IT WILL BE AVAILABLE! So drop what you're doing and go watch it now. Link to comment
Jayne Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 I’ve enjoyed his “Pacific”, “Drink to Me Only With Mine Eyes”, and “Sandpiper Ballet”. Wish PNB would do his “Sylvia”. Link to comment
Helene Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 42 minutes ago, Jayne said: Wish PNB would do his “Sylvia”. I do, too. Especially since SFB made sets and costumes, and they've only done it twice, the second time not long after the premiere. (Now I'm casting it in my head...) Link to comment
sandik Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 I'd be very curious to see his Sylvia. I saw L and M here close to its premiere -- it's not my favorite of his work, but I was fascinated with the music. Now off to watch L'Allegro! Link to comment
Jayne Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 16 hours ago, Helene said: I do, too. Especially since SFB made sets and costumes, and they've only done it twice, the second time not long after the premiere. (Now I'm casting it in my head...) We seriously need a “fantasy season” thread where we can design seasons and cast them. Link to comment
ABT Fan Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 31 minutes ago, Jayne said: We seriously need a “fantasy season” thread where we can design seasons and cast them. I've thought about a "fantasy" thread - for any ballet by any choreographer. What fun that could be! Link to comment
sandik Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 3 hours ago, ABT Fan said: I've thought about a "fantasy" thread - for any ballet by any choreographer. What fun that could be! Let's do it! Link to comment
YouOverThere Posted March 30, 2018 Author Share Posted March 30, 2018 On 3/27/2018 at 2:46 PM, Jayne said: We seriously need a “fantasy season” thread where we can design seasons and cast them. My suggested theme for a season would be "Making Arabesques Great Again". Link to comment
sandik Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Ok, I started a thread over in "Everything Else Ballet" for a fantasy ballet company -- bring your thoughts here. Link to comment
Jack Reed Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 (edited) I had a pretty good time watching "Layla and Majnun" here in Chicago (16 & 17th March, in the Harris theater) by using my habitual method, looking to see how the movements fit the sounds. I usually turn out for one of Morris's shows because he seems to me to hear very well, if not so well as George Balanchine, whose best choreographies are the high-water mark for me in this regard. (Can this be what some people mean by "musicality"? There are certainly choreographers who don't seem to hear well or who hear very differently from them, and that can give me problems.) Not only that, Morris's movement vocabulary of the moment usually seems less rich to me than Balanchine's, which he developed further from his rich heritage - although, that said, in "Layla" there seemed to be a lot of unique movement expressive of music unique in my experience. But one of the rewards of this approach is that I may see how a choreographer hears music I've never heard before, as here. The choreography has the effect of pointing out the events in the musical progression, as the music informs the visible activity, and the whole experience becomes, well, more whole, stronger, a visit to a larger world. The whole of "Layla" being so new to me, when I watched it a second time (from a slightly different seat), I saw things I hadn't the first time and enjoyed it again, and felt I might yet again when I had the chance. I liked the music, too, but that has not always been necessary; sometimes in the past I've learned from a choreographer a second way of listening to music I didn't like hearing it on its own. (Stravinsky's Violin Concerto, for example.) The supertitles were a big help in following the gist of the narrative - the story - for me too, and I may still have a long way to go to get all of that - not to mention the effect of the four couples in the title roles - if I ever do. If ever this world becomes familiar, or something. Edited April 1, 2018 by Jack Reed Link to comment
CTballetfan Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 (edited) Last evening I saw a Mark Morris performance for the first time. It was Pepperland, to numbers from the Beatles' Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band album. The performance was part of the New Haven Arts and Ideas Festival, which runs for about 2 weeks. The performance was exactly one hour long, no intermission, with a small band and singer offstage. This was my first experience with modern dance, being a lifelong lover of ballet. The ensemble was about 15-20 dancers, and the numbers nonstop one after the other to the Beatles' tunes. I found it spritely, the dancers competent, but the choreography seemed repetitive. Only one number seemed to be a hit with the sophisticated arts audience, Penny Lane. Some of the numbers bored me. Being somewhat conversant with classic and contemporary ballet, I thought Morris was influenced by Jerome Robbins, many of whose works I see at NYCB. In turn, I saw resemblances between Morris and Justin Peck, NYCB's resident choreographer, and wonder if some of Peck's work has been influenced by Morris. Has anyone seen Pepperland? Edited June 22, 2018 by CTballetfan Typo Link to comment
sandik Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 I saw Pepperland here in Seattle when it was quite new -- there's some discussion about it somewhere on BA, but I can't remember where and a quick search isn't bringing it up. I had mixed feelings about the work, mostly having to do with the orchestrations, but I loved the big group coiling and uncoiling at the end. Morris' use of music has been compared frequently to Balanchine's, both in his musical choices (quite varied, but as frequently from the classical rep as from other parts of the canon) and his ability to deal with musical structures. Stephanie Jordan's book goes into significant detail about that aspect of his work if you're curious. His early dance training included flamenco and Eastern European folkdance as well as ballet, and I frequently see those influences in his movement choices, especially in his work for a group. I think the connection you see to Robbins is more of a coincidence than a direct influence, though Morris certainly did spend time watching NYCB and Cunningham early on once he moved to NYC. You might keep your eyes open for his L'Allegro -- it's an astonishing piece of choreography. Link to comment
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