Balletwannabe

I didn't realize he was that old! He looks good for his age.

I'm curious as to the reasons why he's an obvious no? Obviously he has a huge ego. But so did Balanchine. He thought his choreography was so brilliant (it was, to be fair) that individual dancers shouldn't think of themselves as stars. His choreography was the star. Talk about ego... To be honest...I really liked his idea that he presented in his last videos (ballet to Broadway as a way to bring in more $$).

Do you work for NYCB? I don't know why you would assume it's "likely" the dancers don't care, or that they're overestimating the effect of the lawsuit (do you know how many letters they've received from donors withdrawing support?), unless you work for NYCB.

How do you know they don't know the facts? If Ramasar admitted to the existence of the texts publicly, I would think the dancers would know even more, privately (Sterling H. has said there is more the public doesn't know). With the texts alone however, that's enough to justify any female dancers discomfort.

To be fair though, we have no idea what each NYCB dancer thinks about what was said; they have no choice but to stand there and clap.

They have some updating to do..still lists Martin's, and the State Theater instead of Koch. But maybe that one was on purpose? Ha.

So again about the hotel room...if this is true, NYCB has some 'splainin to do. They should have fired him then. How does destroying a hotel room not violate the code of conduct??

I could be wrong. I thought he said it in a dance video I was watching.. can't recall which one. I wonder why they don't list apprentices on the "dancers" NYCB webpage?

I thought I remembered Martin's saying you could do a max of 2 years as an apprentice.

Why can't it be both?

Oops. Thanks, I'll look back to find it.

Did someone already post this? Apologies if it's a duplicate.

The YAGP connection is seriously scary.

Very disturbing. Citing specific ranks and relationships... I feel very bad for the women involved in this mess that might just be finding out now. *Alleged* mess.

I'm curious to hear an explanation of the "culture" at NYCB. Taking into consideration that the 3 men are gone, along with Martins. Is there someone specifically that you (collectively on this thread) want to call out? It takes PEOPLE to create a culture. Are you worried about a ballet master? Donor? (The one in the lawsuit?) Board member(s)? Dancer(s)? Are audience members objectifying/flirting with dancers at donor events? What specifically, is still worrying? I'm 100% on Waterbury's side, yet I don't quite understand, practically, what else NYCB is expected to do here.

Same.

Ok I see. So they really have no obligation to promote anybody to fill a qouta... they could save some $ this way, I suppose.

Do they need to promote some men to principal ASAP or can the current soloists just fill in? Wondering how this works with pay- if you can expect soloists to work in a principal role while still paying a soloist wage?

Thank you for clarifying that makes a little more sense. She does look very thin.

I don't understand her comment about burning out "in 6 months". If she's figured out how her body works, so much so that it's now her "passion" to help other dancers... How would she help other dancers avoid burnout if she's unable to avoid it herself?

I can't stand Clifford's comments on all of Kirkland's YouTube videos. "That's not how it happened- I was there!!". Really? You were in all of her conversations with Balanchine? All of their interactions? Give me a break.

Honestly I wonder if she read the posts here questioning her mental health and this is her response.

She is admitting she believes the men are guilty ("this behavior was carried out...allowed to fester"). She is supporting Waterbury ("my heart goes out to the women...")- the woman who is suing the company she works for! She referred to a "leaderless state", as someone mentioned, throwing the interim team under the bus. I think there's plenty there to create controversy. If it stays up with zero likes or comments from her colleagues; that says something. I'm not saying she has no support, but I highly doubt this was vetted by anyone.

I guess I'm not allowed to sleep at night if I want to keep up on this thread... I was happy Bouder said something because she has always positioned herself as a leader. Often it's easy to be that leader, her posts are largerly supported, they encourage, and inspire people. This post? Difficult...very controversial...possible ramifications for her work environment. Do her colleagues agree with her? Maybe, maybe not. So for me, it's not that I was looking to her for an "answer", I was looking to her as the leader that she is. And she continues to blow me away in her strength and resolve, regardless of whether or not I always agree with her.

Finally. Thank you Bouder.