innopac Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 A friend has asked me to ask about the "snowflakes" that often fall on the stage during the snow fairies dance in productions of "The Nutcracker." She is especially interested in terms of the Nureyev Covent Garden production (dvd). What are the snowflakes made of? Do they create a problem for the dancers? Link to comment
Mel Johnson Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 Nowadays, they're mostly expanded styrene plastic beads (Styrofoam). I've seen a lot of different things. They used to be mostly paper, but that was treacherously slippery. For awhile, they went "green" and used compressed starch, but that tended to explode the mouse population in the theater, and not just for Nutcracker. I've even seen detergent suds, made of the same cationic detergent that's in fabric softener sheets, but that mechanism is first, noisy, and second, the suds are actually STICKY! Link to comment
Helene Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 In Winter Season Toni Bentley said that in her time at NYCB they were made of paper with fireproofing chemicals. I remember her comment that "they get everywhere," including in the dancers mouths. Link to comment
Figurante Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 It really isn't as bad as one might think. It really isn't all that slippery! You just can't wear brand new pointe shoes; then you're just asking for it! Yes, they get in your eyes, ears, eyelashes... never wear gooey lipstick, because they will stick to your lips.. I've had some fly into my mouth, and I have sure I've swallowed them as well. But it wouldn't be Nutcracker without them! There is something so magical about standing at the end of the the snow scene in Balanchine's Nutcracker in a "v" and seeing all of that snow fall as we bouree offstage. It does kind of worry me that I am ingesting fire-proofed paper though, haha! Link to comment
Mel Johnson Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 Considering that the standard fireproofing for all that stuff was and remains borax or boric acid, the latter isn't too bad on the eyes, but in the mouth...PTUI! Link to comment
cubanmiamiboy Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 ...standard fireproofing for all that stuff was and remains borax or boric acid Oooh, the old ilussional "imperial white magic" is gone now that i have to relate the lovely snowflakes with borax and boric acid.. (never occured to me that kind of question...BTW, BT'rs are really stepping out of the box and being creative, ah? ) Link to comment
bart Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 Are there ever any debates over the quantity of snow that should be used? I've seen productions in which the dancers almost disappear in the blizzard. I love that. But it must make all the hazards of dancing even worse. Link to comment
printscess Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 I think NYCB has the right amount Just enough to make you feel like you're in a winter wonderland and it doesn't obscure the dancers. That scene is my favorite in the ballet. It is so magical!!! Link to comment
Millie Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 About ten years back, a small company I know used potatoe flakes, the kind used to make mashed potatoes. It looked fantastic when viewed from the audience, under the lights. I guess eating these would not be as harmful as some substances. They had huge bags of the stuff ready for each night. Link to comment
Mel Johnson Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 That's the sort of thing I mean by "compressed starch", only the stuff I handled was made from cornstarch made into pellets with boraxo (hydrous borax) in them, making them not slick and also fire retardant. Don't get it wet, though!!! Link to comment
bart Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 About ten years back, a small company I know used potatoe flakes, the kind used to make mashed potatoes.My first thought about this was: cockroaches!!! My own favorite is the shiny variety of flake -- looking something like cut-up bits of that soft, stretchy plastic that looks like aluminum foil. Maybe it's just the coating on paper. I can't remember whether it was Miami or Ballet Florida last season, but one of them had a snow storm that really glistened as it swirled! Link to comment
artist Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 in the nycb dvd version it seems they avoid chainees en full pointe and go to demi instead, perhaps to prevent slipping. Link to comment
Mel Johnson Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 And also partially to imitate the eddies of snow which form close to the ground in an actual snowstorm. Link to comment
Treefrog Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Once when my teenage dancer was younger and in the children's cast for the Joffrey's Nuts, I was cleaning out her dance bag and came across what looked like random tiny bits of paper. Just in time she screamed, "Don't throw those out! They're the SNOW!" She and the other kids had collected it from the stage after the curtain fell on Act I. Bart, I thought of cockroaches too, but in another vein: maybe the boric acid helps control the population? Link to comment
Gina Ness Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 It was always fun being the "Snow Queen" for the final Nutcracker of the run during the years I danced with SFB. During the final pose at the end of the Snow Scene, the crew let all the remaining "snow" come tumbling down in a final massive blizzard/avalanche drop! Link to comment
angieballerina Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 My company uses like a shredded plastic (like white plastic garbage bags, shredded into little pieces). They are not too bad to dance on, but have to be careful of "drifts" A funny story: One time during a dress rehearsal all the snow came pounding down about mid-way through. We were covered! White out! I just couldn't take it and bent over in my white tutu, laughing hysterically! It was just too much. I'll never forget that. We keep saying that we should have sent video into "Funniest Home Videos" to raise money for the company! Link to comment
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