sandik Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Thanks for the heads-up -- I was hoping to catch it again before it folds. Link to comment
diane Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Ah, thanks. It is wonderful to get to see class and some rehearsals! Unfortunately, I never have time to watch the videos at this time of year - it is a super-busy time for me.I will make do with the highlights which remain so that I can watch bits and pieces over the xmas and soring holiddays. -d- Link to comment
pherank Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 I just noticed the length of the SFB WBD 2017 "highlights" video: 28mins 40 secs!!! The original was 3 hours 55 mins. with SFB, and then an hour with Houston Ballet and Ballet West. Think they cut out much? Yikes! I really wish the editor wouldn't go crazy like this. Link to comment
diane Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Yeah - and I wonder what the real reason is?? Copyright? Some companies at least leave up the entire class for years and years. Oh, well. -d- Link to comment
apollosmuse Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Different companies have different contractual obligations with regard to the period of time that lifestreams can stay up and with the length of the highlights videos. These matters are negotiated with the various unions that work with the companies as well as with the rights holders for the ballets and the music. Link to comment
pherank Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 3 hours ago, apollosmuse said: Different companies have different contractual obligations with regard to the period of time that lifestreams can stay up and with the length of the highlights videos. These matters are negotiated with the various unions that work with the companies as well as with the rights holders for the ballets and the music. In other words, it's complicated. ;) Thanks for that information, Apollosmuse. I can't help but wonder though about the details (naturally): such as who benefits, and how, from removing rehearsal footage. I'm guessing that both the Robbins Foundation and the Balanchine Trust don't like to make long sections of performance footage available - although the Balanchine Trust finally seems to have relaxed their policies regarding videos appearing on YouTube and similar sites. I think they finally understood that this is free marketing that also keeps interest alive in the ballets. A significant number of people still don't see live performances of Balanchine and Robbins ballets, and online video is one way to inform the public about this work. The only real downside I've noticed is the proliferation of 'commentary' from Internet Trolls - and the truly uninformed but grouchy - but that could all be solved by eliminating comments entirely. That would force the people who genuinely want to discuss the subject to Forums and Blogs. Everyone else can throw things at their TV. In fact, it might be a good idea for the big ballet companies to post videos with comments turned off, while providing a link to a web page listing the many available reputable (hopefully) forums for discussion. Link to comment
apollosmuse Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 It’s complicated But all that also to say that the length of the highlights video is decided well before the livestream occurs and is not up to the video editor nor decided entirely by the company. Rights holders often don’t want full versions up, and many dancers also don’t want unedited rehearsal and class footage online. Link to comment
pherank Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 13 minutes ago, apollosmuse said: But all that also to say that the length of the highlights video is decided well before the livestream occurs and is not up to the video editor nor decided entirely by the company. Rights holders often don’t want full versions up, and many dancers also don’t want unedited rehearsal and class footage online. Very interesting about the video length being decided well in advance. The WBD rehearsals of new works may have real historical significance one day, so I hope those videos don't disappear entirely into a black hole... Link to comment
sandik Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Oh, I'm pretty sure the companies hold onto all the video footage they can -- they just can't show it to the general public. Link to comment
MissMonk Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I only watched the Royal Ballet footage since that's the one I like best and it was so fun. They have the classes from the past years up but it makes me sad that the full streaming is no longer available for those who didn't see this in the past. It was really great to see so many principals in there and that Olga lady was awesome, though I prefer Brian Maloney, he sings the instructions. Link to comment
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