glebb Posted July 15, 2003 Share Posted July 15, 2003 When I was young I saw a local non professional company rehearse and perform the "Pas de Quatre". Victoria informed me that it was a restaging of the Keith Lester version. Later I acquired a video of the Dolin version danced by Alonzo, Evdokimova, Thesmar and Fracci. I adore the Dolin version. IMO it defines the characters in a strong way. The ballet seems to only appear on galas (as it did originally), but I wouldn't mind seeing ABT revive this work. Who would be suitable to stage it? Markova? Link to comment
Hans Posted July 15, 2003 Share Posted July 15, 2003 I'd like to see it staged by Kunakova, though I don't think she'd know the Dolin version. Alessandra Ferri would make a beautiful Taglioni, and imagine Kent in the 3rd variation (that ends with a saut de l'ange--is that Cerrito or Elssler?). Link to comment
Mel Johnson Posted July 15, 2003 Share Posted July 15, 2003 Elssler wasn't in the "Pas de Quatre" - just Grahn, Grisi, Cerrito and Taglioni, in order of variations. And while there are many who would be "suitable" to stage the work, including you and me, glebb, the nature of the undertaking by ABT would require some notable Public Affairs pizzazz. Now, if Markova or Alonso were to stage the work, it would be a real PR coup! Link to comment
Hans Posted July 15, 2003 Share Posted July 15, 2003 Grisi, that was it! The multitalented one . Then I'd put Kent as Cerrito, Ferri as Taglioni...maybe Ananiashvili as Grisi...but who could do Grahn ? Come to think of it, I'll bet Ms. Leigh could stage it ;). Or maybe Evdokimova should be given the job, given what's happened at Boston Ballet. Link to comment
rg Posted July 15, 2003 Share Posted July 15, 2003 actually dolin did stage his PdQ for the kirov, himself. there are pictures of him working w/ his first cast in, if mem. serves, contemp. issues of THE DANCING TIMES and/or DANCE AND DANCERS. (english post-ers might be able to say for certain.) the first listing i can find for a kirov rendering of his work is from a 1982 film, as follows: Pas de quatre. Chor: Anton Dolin; mus: Cesare Pugni. Perf. by Galina Mezentseva (Taglioni), Gabriella Komleva (Grahn), Irina Kolpakova (Grisi), and Elena Evteeva (Cerrito). and this may in fact be the 'first' cast dolin worked w/. so, kunakova (lubov? elena?) would know that version. it came into rep. around the same time, i THINK that else mariann von rosen staged bournonville's (or after-bournonville to be more precise) LA SYLPHIDE. so it was a kirov period looking at sylphs from outside russia. the full credits, according to the linc.cent.library for the perf. arts for the film as it came to videocassette are as follows: The Kirov Ballet: classic ballet night c1982. 87 min. : sd. color Performance onstage by the Kirov Ballet. Director: Nina Dimitrieva. Copyright 1982 by Soviet Film and TV. Reissued as a videotape in 1986 by V.I.E.W. Video, New York. Diana and Acteon grand pas classique. Chor: Agrippina Vaganova; mus: Cesare Pugni. Perf. by Tatiana Terekhova, Sergei Berezhnoi, and ensemble. - Esmeralda pas de six. Chor: Marius Petipa after Jules Perrot, restaged by Agrippina Vaganova; mus: Riccardo Drigo. Perf. by Gabriella Komleva (Esmeralda), Vitali Afanaskov (Gringoire), and four women. - Flower festival at Genzano pas de deux. Chor: Auguste Bournonville; mus: Edvard Helsted. Perf. by Natalia Bolshakova and Vadim Guliaev. - La vivandière pas de six. Chor: Pierre Lacotte after Arthur Saint-Léon; mus: Cesare Pugni. Perf. by Alla Sizova, Boris Blankov, and four women. - Grand pas classique from Le carnaval de Venise. Chor: Marius Petipa, restaged by Nadezhda Kranocheyeva; mus: Cesare Pugni. Perf. by Svetlana Efremova, Valeri Emets, and ensemble. - Pas de quatre. Chor: Anton Dolin; mus: Cesare Pugni. Perf. by Galina Mezentseva (Taglioni), Gabriella Komleva (Grahn), Irina Kolpakova (Grisi), and Elena Evteeva (Cerrito). Link to comment
Mel Johnson Posted July 15, 2003 Share Posted July 15, 2003 Hans, your choice for stagers is unerring, and superb. My nominees for Grahn would be Michele Wiles or Ashley Tuttle. Link to comment
Hans Posted July 15, 2003 Share Posted July 15, 2003 I considered both of them, too, but couldn't decide, though of course I have a strong personal bias in favor of Wiles . Link to comment
glebb Posted July 16, 2003 Author Share Posted July 16, 2003 It's true that Grisi was the multitalented one. She was an opera singer as well as a famous dancer. I'm not sure if it was her sister or cousin who was a famous opera singer. I'm curious Hans as to why you would cast Julie Kent as the Italian Cerrito. Why Nina Ananiashvili as the French Grisi? Link to comment
vrsfanatic Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 I believe the rites to Dolin's choreography and restagings were left to Jelco Yuresha, Yugoslavian dancer, soloist with London Festival Ballet and Royal Ballet in the 1960's. He is the husband of Belinda Wright. He does travel quite extensively restaging Dolin work if anyone is interested! Link to comment
Mel Johnson Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 I believe that Jelko and Belinda have the rights to "Pas de Quatre" and "Variations for Four", but he gave several of his restagings of Giselle and other works to some small companies and individuals as a gift outright during his lifetime. One of them was the State Ballet of Rhode Island. Link to comment
silvy Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 I quote rg: "the first listing i can find for a kirov rendering of his work is from a 1982 film, as follows: Pas de quatre. Chor: Anton Dolin; mus: Cesare Pugni. Perf. by Galina Mezentseva (Taglioni), Gabriella Komleva (Grahn), Irina Kolpakova (Grisi), and Elena Evteeva (Cerrito)" However, I have an earlier version on film, filmed during the sixties, I believe. It is a black and white filming included in a tape called "The glory of the Kirov". The dancers are: Ludmila Kovaleva (Grahn - I loved her portrayal), Gabriella Komleva (the most difficult Grisi variation), Yelena Yevteyeva (Cerrito), Lubov Galinskaha (Taglioni) Anyone else has seen this tape and has some comments? Maybe this shud go to the "video" forum??? silvy Link to comment
rg Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 many thanks, slivy, for the alert to this 1968 filming of the PdQ included on 'the glory of the kirov'. interesting to note that it didn't come up in the linc.cent.library for the perf. arts catalogue. (i just checked and the library DOES have a copy of the videotape, perhaps i missed it first time around.) to be sure, this film dates dolin's kirov staging as sometime around or before 1968. interesting as well to find one lubov galinskaya as taglioni. it's a kirov name unfamiliar to me except o'course from this film. too bad in the world of ntsc, region 1 the record exists only on vhs cassette; the euro. zone(s) have it in pal DVD as well. Link to comment
silvy Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 you are welcome rg!!!!!! Speaking of GAlinskaya, maybe she is the one I like less (of the 4 Kirov dancers) Regarding the Lester version, this was staged here in Uruguay around 1997 by a ballet mistress of the National Ballet of Cuba. It is quite different, and I remember that when I leartn Cerrito, the Lester version has her doing a turn a la seconde, (like a turning temps-leve a la seconde), which I have always thought as too modern for Pas de Quatre. The Dolin version does nothing of the like, is much more "sweet". :rolleyes: Silvy Link to comment
Hans Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 Glebb wrote: I'm curious Hans as to why you would cast Julie Kent as the Italian Cerrito. Why Nina Ananiashvili as the French Grisi? Well, for one thing, Julie Kent has a very Italianate style in terms of port de bras and posture. I don't find her "spiritual" enough for Taglioni, but seems to have the right playful quality for the Cerrito variation. I put Ananiashvili as Grisi without paying attention to nationality--the variation just seems to suit her, IMO. Was Grisi really French? Her sister, the opera singer at La Scala, was named Giulia, which is definitely not a French spelling of the name (of course, "Grisi" is not French, either). Link to comment
atm711 Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 All these casts for 'Pas de Quatre' are fun to contemplate--but none of them are up to the one I saw in 1948 at the 'Met': Alicia Markova (Taglioni); Nathalie Krassovska (Grahn); Mia Slavenska (Grisi); Alexandra Danilova (Cerrito). That was a real battle of the ballerinas. Link to comment
rg Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 according to IED: GRISI, CARLOTTA (Caronne Adele Jopsephine Marie Grisi: born 18 June 1819 in Visinada, Upper Istria,Italy, died 20 May 1899 in Saint-Jean, Geneve-Petit-Saconnex) Italian ballet dancer; Carlotta Grisi was a daughter of Vicenzo Grisi, an employee in the public surveyor's department, and Maria Grisi nee Boschetti. [hope i didn't mistype anything, excluding that is the missing accents] Link to comment
Hans Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 Come to think of it, McKerrow would make a good Grisi . I was using current dancers in order to be realistic, but if we're going to go into dream casts (aside from the original one, of course!), I think I would cast: Beriosova as Taglioni Sizova as Grisi Maybe Ayupova as Grahn? Can't think of an ideal Cerrito right now, but I'm sure it'll come to me. Thank you, rg . Link to comment
Victoria Leigh Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 Hans, how about Carla Fracci? Link to comment
glebb Posted July 16, 2003 Author Share Posted July 16, 2003 Did Grisi dance mostly in Italy or Paris? I think Carla Fracci is charming as Cerrito in the cast I have on video. Link to comment
Alexandra Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 I think of Cerrito as a merry sexpot! Link to comment
glebb Posted July 16, 2003 Author Share Posted July 16, 2003 Maybe like the young Kschessinska, before she became the Tsaritza of the dance. Link to comment
Hans Posted July 17, 2003 Share Posted July 17, 2003 Fracci is an excellent suggestion, Ms. Leigh . Link to comment
silvy Posted July 17, 2003 Share Posted July 17, 2003 Well, when I was coached on the Cerrito role, I was told to imagine I was "Miss Congeniality" silvy Link to comment
glebb Posted July 19, 2003 Author Share Posted July 19, 2003 I've always thought that Taglioni might have had a gliding and floating quality as if she were wearing a crown. By the time of the Pas de Quatre performance she would have been older than the others and maybe had a gracious quality. I've read that her neck, arms and legs were very long. Grahn must have been a jumper with a lyrical side. Maybe this is the quality that Alexandra has spoken of when describing excellent Bournonville dancers? Cerrito must have been a flirtatious spitfire, executing steps with a lust for movement. Does everyone think she took that extra bow? Grisi is hard for me to picture except standing in a front B+ holding her scepter of grapes - Act I Giselle. She must have been quite beautiful. Link to comment
Hans Posted July 19, 2003 Share Posted July 19, 2003 I've always thought that Taglioni might have had a gliding and floating quality as if she were wearing a crown. By the time of the Pas de Quatre performance she would have been older than the others and maybe had a gracious quality. I've read that her neck, arms and legs were very long. Yes--that's the reason she always wore bracelets and a necklace onstage: so her limbs wouldn't appear quite so long. I don't know about that extra bow, but considering that her variation was right before Taglioni's, it would have been extremely ill-mannered. Imagine Fonteyn instead of Taglioni and Lynn Seymour instead of Cerrito. It could have happened, but I think it's doubtful. Link to comment
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