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ozzie - i bought mine IN london some years ago, from ross alley. did you check out RAD in sydney, via your members order form? i thought they had it.. but here are some other sources: http://www.dtol.ndirect.co.uk/ralley/r-alley3.htm note :"Discontinued line - Last few copies now available at reduced price" however, the combined video also advertised there would actually be better value anyway! i promise you you can absolutely trust DANCEBOOKS in the UK ( - owner is an australian, whose classes i used to do in london - he taught, amongst others, lucette aldous.) it's the LAST VIDEO at bottom of this page - it is the double one for 26 pounds - exchange rate is very good at the moment - better than it has been for MANY years. http://www.dancebooks.co.uk/catalog/cat82.shtml AMERICAN Target stores: http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/601-8...asin=6301589939 AMAZON: http://www.videos-review.com/Pointe_by_Poi...6301589939.html WORLD OF DANCE in UK: http://www.worldofdance.org.uk/ballet.htm

if you are going to the UK, you are going to the right place to FIND OUT!

thanks mel - OK, so it's not a 'tautology', but 'paradox' is definitely not the word i was after. THAT one i DO know. i was after the term that means 'inherently contradictory'...? victoria - of course i agree with you. i was just trying to come up with a way to keep the thread shorter...sorry.

arabesques will be a minefield - might i suggest a separate thread for POSES (as distinct from STEPS)? alexandra - this formatting is very helpful. (likewise delete this post, later) my post is just mainly to point out that, in english-speaking countries outside of the USA, to my knowledge anyway, there is no such things as 'centre barre' - this is regarded as a tautology (or is it an aphorism, a whatasit or a whojamajig?) in the english-speaking countries i have been to (outside of USA) - barre is AT the rail-thing. center is NOT at the rail-thing! :shrug:

a flower-power saint? : that'd be right for ME, mel! about this lady: i actually pondered over nlkflint's comment from a different point of view. mine is that it's a direct statement of the values of our cultures, that posing naked is "WORTH" MORE than all theyears of effort, dedication, pain and struggle which goes into creating a ballerina. interesting thought, isn't it? :shrug:

i have never seen or heard of this ballet. in fact, when i saw your topic, rodney, i assumed (and hoped) that it was about a talisman that petipa kept in his pocket - some little treasure that might come up at christie's! how gauche of me. i will have a browse in a book or two, but don't really know that i am likely to have this info. it will be good to have someone at this board from SA, as we hear little from your area, and i know things are very difficult at present. (i recently met dawn weller, who has moved from your territory to mine.)

mel, an intriguing story about saint francis (my favorite saint... - tell me more?).

"British" pronunciation: PET ee pah as alexandra says, the other may be more accurate, but would be regarded as pretentious. great questions, Big Lee - as alexandra says, there are so many of these potential traps... PAVLOVA: within my lifetime, accepted pronunciation has changed from pav-LOW-vu to PAHv-luv-u - and in australia where the meringue desert was named after her, we wouldn't dare call the desert PAHV-luv-u, even if we HAVE learned to pronounce the dancer's name that way! it's a minefield! but thankfully, only your ego can be blown away - not your legs.

WOW! fantastic - and well-deserved by Cope. not suggesting anything different about guillem, except that, being French, hers is less expected, and a bit of a surprise.

surely someone has something to say about THIS: to read (a little) more: http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_797562.html

i had a browse at that ballet.co thread today, because this site was invisible/in transit...the poorly-mechanically-translated stuff (e.g. via babelfish) coming out of russia (moscow specifically, i think) is quite fascinating. an education about assumptions, expectations, cultural differences etc - great fodder for discussions. i was just about to recommend havcing a look over there - but it appears that alexandra has beaten me to it.

just to say THANK YOU again. i printed off the list, and passed it to my mother, who agreed that it seems very appropriate - she says she has read maybe half of them, but that, of course, just confirms that you are on the right track with the 'other' half! thank you very much.

~ nice IDEA! i'll "try"... :rolleyes:

sad.

oh! i have always assumed Ari was a male...as in Aristotle. - off-topic, i know, but at least this thread IS about gender.

- a LOT less than it costs to fly from australia! ~ nevertheless: my sympathies, jaana. :rolleyes:

oh! OK. thank you estelle. i have used the signature quote of one of the posters here - a quote from erick hawkins - in a review i just wrote, and wanted to be sure i had my descriptive facts right. can't recall which poster quotes him - but i assume it's one of the guys. i didn't go searching for THAT poster, to ask, because i imagine some people just use a quote they like in their signature, without necessarily knowing much about the original source. thanks again.

treefrog and atm711, i really enjoyed your stories. Mme. Hermine - i too have done class at the urdang with various people, and with maryon lane at london studio centre - a few years after you. i can appreciate your story, but for the life of me i cannot picture de valois walking through that dreadful entry hall into the urdang studios, and sitting down to watch class there. i guess it had to be seen to be believed.

my koegler and the more recent edition by craine/mackrell say that hawkins was graham's first male dancer. was he also her FIRST husband? i have mentioned this in my first draft of a review, and want to check it here, if anyone knows. if not, no drama!

an extra one i was sent today from hong kong, is the Jean Wong School of Ballet. this RAD school is the largest and best-known school in HK - and i've been told, in the past, that it's actually the largest ballet school in the world (in terms of student numbers). i don't know whether or not that's true, but i don't have any reason to doubt it. Their address is: 18 Tanner Road, North Point, Hong Kong.

hi there, michael goldbarth! ;) "long time, no see"...

i have to say that, while the stuff about her father came as a shock, nothing else here surprised me - it was clear from her own writings that she had a cushioned existence, and that there was a benefactor in the background.

i DId pick up on your opinion, mel - which i don't share (surprise, surprise! ;) ) - but you had me worried for a minute, there.

here is the whole lot, as a list, in case anyone else wants to print it out, to go shopping (or to the library): READING LIST: True North by Jill Ker Conway Fried Green Tomatoes at the Whistle Stop Cafe by Fannie Flagg Divine Secrets of the Ya Ya Sisterhood by Rebecca Wells Memoirs of a Geisha by Arthur Golden Sylvia Townsend Warner's "Lolly Willowes", Kenji Miyazawa's books of short stories Claire Bloom's "Leaving a Doll's House." 84 Charing Cross Road/The Duchess of Bloomsbury Street by Helene Hanff Lewis Thomas' "The Lives of the Cell" "Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil” Bette Bao Lord's "Spring Moon" Gladys Taber's books. There are at least a couple Stillmeadow books and one about Cape Cod, as I recall. Trollope's Barchester Chronicles Madeleine L'Engle's Crosswicks Journals. There are 4 books in the series but I like Circle of Quiet ,Two Part Invention , and The Summer of the Great Grandmother . The fourth book, The Irrational Season , doesn't appeal to me because it's primarily about her relationship to God. a nice autobiographical book called Letters of a Woman Homesteader Wild Swans: Three Daughters of China by Jung Chang C. S. Lewis, although he is very much a Christian author.His biography is excellent: Surprised by Joy. There is the seven volume The Chronicles of Narnia, a children's tale for adults. The Screwtape Letters, in which an apprentice devil keeps failing to tempt people into Hell. Ah, Ambrose Bierce -- now THERE'S some good summer reading 1) The Last Time I Saw Mother by Arlene Chai 2) Eating Fire, Drinking Water by Arlene Chai 3) When The Elephants Dance by Tess Urize Holthe Maeve Binchy - most of her novels are set in Dublin/Ireland. Judy Blume, who is a children's book author has an adult novel called "Summer Sisters". Frances Chung has a book of poetry called "Chinese Apple, Crazy melon", which is one of my all-time favorites (poetry). 1) The God of Small Things, Arundrahti Roy 2) Jaroun and the Sea of Stories by Salman Rushdie 3) One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez C.S. Lewis' book - "The Divine Comedy" entitled "The Great Divorce" Thomas Merton's autobiography, one of my favorites, "The Seven Story Mountain" Fair and Tender Ladies by Lee Smith All the books in the Mitford Series by Jan Karon I Capture the Castle by Dodie Smith almost anything by Willa Cather and Rumer Godden. Cather's My Antonia, O Pioneers, Death Comes for the Archbishop, and Song of the Lark(about an opera singer) are real treasures. Some good Godden books include The Greengage Summer, River, In This House of Brede, Episode of Sparrows, and China Court. I learned so much about Eastern cultures from reading her books. Finally, Mists of Avalon by Marion Zimmer Bradley, and To Serve Them All My Days (about a teacher's life in an English boarding school - the story takes place in the first half of the 20th century) by R.F. Delderfield. Angelas Ashes, A Monk swimming, A Fortunate Life. "The Winter Sparrows" The James Herriot books "Shadows on the rock" I'd recommend, and "One of ours" a great book but perhaps not very uplifting (as much of it deals with WWI). the "Miss Seeton" series, by various authors (Heron Carvic, Hamilton Crane, Hampton Charles)? I don't find it very well-written, but it's quite funny. the main character is a retired female drawing teacher in a small English village in the 1970s, who gets involved in some crime stories but never really realizes what's happening, as she's very naive and thoughtless, and she helps the police find the criminals a bit by chance...) Taylor Caldwell's novels, E.V. Timms, Sharon Penman Your hills are too high by Roslyn Taylor, James Herriot as suggested by some posters plus the latest (?) which is an autobiography, Michael Crawford's autobiography Taylor Caldwell - "Dear and Glorious Physician" "Paris Underground" by an American woman who lived in Paris during the occupation, named Etta Shiber. Chaim Potok. He wrote a number of novels set in the Jewish Hasidic communities of Brooklyn. He was a natural storyteller; as soon as you start to read him, you feel like getting cozy in a nice chair and just settling in. His novels create a warm, positive feeling about the world, while not ignoring the dark side. His best-known book is The Chosen, which is very good, but my favorite is My Name Is Asher Lev, about a young Hasidic boy who has great gifts as a painter. another author: Barbara Pym.There are several novels by her. She is a good observer. Her books are well-written and humorous. Usually I have not wanted the books to end. Nero Wolfe by Rex Stout and the Miss Marple and Hercule Poirot series by Agatha Christie. many things by Edith Wharton would be appropriate, but not The House of Mirth. Twilight Sleep is funny, and The Reef is a beautiful book. Roman Fever and Other Stories is witty and interesting, and The Age of Innocence is wonderful, though perhaps a little sad at the end. The Children is another good one. Probably not The Custom of the Country. There is also an adorable, funny book by Thomas Hardy that I can't for the life of me remember the title of--it takes place in a small English village and involves a love triangle between a rector, the church organist and a farmer's son. All right, that description makes it sound very immodest, but really it's sweet and amusing.

GREAT story, vagansmom! now i'll keep an eye out for 'Dancing at Lughnasa'.