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  1. Tapfan

    Misty Copeland

    People who don't follow ballet but who follow Misty have been asking her what's next. Will she "move on up" to Broadway or movies? That's a hilarious reminder that for most folks, even many sophisticates, ballet is a niche art form to be transcended.
  2. I happily stand corrected. I was wrong. Good for City Ballet! I really mean that! I truly thought there was something wrong with them.
  3. I'm not suggesting quotas for anyone. Although outreach IS nice. Its just seems strange that City ballet doesn't have any female dancers of East Asian heritage when practically everyone else does. It still seems strange even when you take into account the fact that City ballet likes Ballanchine ballerinas and the fact that Asians and Asian Americans stress the study of hard sciences for a career. Even with all that, women with Asian heritage still become classical dancers. 'Cept at NYCB. Even if city ballet doesn't care one bit about diversity, you'd think someone would make their roster.
  4. All you have to do is look at the dancer rosters. You'd be hard-pressed to find any from the internationally known major companies to the regional companies in America's heartland that don't have two or more male and female East Asians dancers. But not NYCB. That just strikes me as odd. Reminds me about Chris Rock's comment about the lack of Mexican American talent in the corporate offices of Hollywood when you consider the Latino population of Los Angeles. You almost have to go out of your way not to hire someone. The lack of women from the East Asian diaspora at City Ballet seems as unlikely as not seeing Asian women in the nation's top colleges. It's just not very likely.
  5. This looks strange when compared to practically every other major ballet company outside the old Soviet block. At least those countries in eastern Europe have the excuse of having been culturally cut off from the West. What's NYC Ballet's excuse? Where are the Asian Swans? This is what I mean when i say that NYC Ballet looks like a 1950's new England boarding school.
  6. Tapfan

    Misty Copeland

    I disagree that nobody plays the denial card when these very people are dismissive of first-hand accounts of discrimination that have been made by brown ballet dancers. They say it's unfair to accuse people in power of racism without giving specific examples but still complain when those examples are given. Also, the choices of AD's will never be questioned because they can always say no black female dancers are good enough. It's vicious cycle. Do I think most AD's sit around in smoke-filled rooms coming up with schemes to keep black women out of classical ballet? Heck no. I don't think they think about black women at all. They just aren't on their radar and THAT's the biggest problem.
  7. Tapfan

    Misty Copeland

    I disagree that there is no way to know these things happen in general when there has been an admitted history of widespread blatant discrimination against people of color and black women in particular in classical dance. Virginia Johnson guest stars with the Royal Ballet several years ago so everything now is fine? I feel that pretending there is no problem with race in classical dance is one of the reasons the problem still exists. One doesn't have to believe there are no other reasons other than racism for lack of advancement for black women in ballet, to accept the fact that racism can and does play a part even to this day. People freely admit that those in power have all kinds of preferences and flat-out prejudices when it comes to developing and promoting certain types of dancers. Some like tall dancers or those with a beautiful port a bras, impressive musicality or a swan neck. Some like dancers who remind them of themselves as young dancers. People also freely admit that that some dancers get roles because they've caught the eye of wealthy patrons. But these same folks clutch their pearls in disbelieving horror at the suggestion that some black dancers with darker skin may face additional hurdles because they stick out in the corps de ballet. As someone mentioned before on this topic, the only way that some people will believe that discrimination existed and still exists is for little black girls to wear body cameras from the time they take their first ballet class to prove they have encountered additional hurdles in pursuing a career in classical dance. Yes, there is the race card. But there is also the denial card. And it has existed just as long.
  8. Tapfan

    Misty Copeland

    It's hard to follow the careers of most black women in ballet because so few have senior status in companies. I'd like to know more about black women in ballet other than Misty Copeland and Michaela DePrince, but ballet in general gets so little attention in the press that it's next to impossible.
  9. Tapfan

    Misty Copeland

    So now only balletomanes are qualified to have an opinion? They may have an informed opinion. But it's still an opinion. And hardly objective. They have their prejudices like everyone else.
  10. Tapfan

    Misty Copeland

    Huh? As America gets browner, it's cultural institutions should reflect that. And it can reflect that without sacrificing quality. Call me pushy and obnoxious all day if you want. Change never comes unless you help it along. Without some pain in the behind pushing, AD's will continue to put off diversity until some vague, perfect time in the future.
  11. Tapfan

    Misty Copeland

    Of course they see the color of someone's skin. They'd be blind if they didn't. I'm of the opinion that a lack of racism doesn't mean pretending that everyone looks the same. It means knowing that people do indeed have different amounts of melanin in their skin, while not allowing that to matter. Who really wants everyone to look the same? I want ballet companies to be like a floral arrangement where part of its beauty is in the contrasting colors and types of flowers, as opposed to the more tradition arrangement where the flowers are all identical long-stemmed red roses.
  12. Tapfan

    Misty Copeland

    Th My point was that people who use color blind casting DON'T allow color to influence their casting choices. They cast despite color. Not because of it.
  13. Tapfan

    Misty Copeland

    Courtney posts at Brown Girls do Ballet, a website devoted to aspiring ballerinas of color. She may not be a high profile evangelist for diversifying the art form like Copeland, but she is not unconcerned about the lack of black and brown women in ballet. She recently expressed heartfelt gratitude towards Alexei Ratmansky for chosing her and Calvin Royal to dance a pas de deux in Sleeping Beauty. Why? Because in her opinion, not all choreographers are comfortable with colorblind casting. That Ratmansky, a man who comes from a country that is infamous for its cultural insularity and casual racism, has given more chances to black and brown dancers than some supposedly more enlightened Westerners, is beyond ironic.
  14. Tapfan

    Virginia Johnson

    I think the fascination with Michaela can be either of those reasons or both. I think the fascination with Michaela can be either of those reasons or both. Depends on who is doing the observing. As to Viriginia Johnson's remarks about Michaela leaving DTH, I think she may have felt that Michaela's leaving was an indication of her lack of gratitude at having been given employment when none of the companies she was interested in, seemed to want her. DTH seems to have always had a scrappy underdog, culture wherein it's management feels it has to prove things to the classical dance world at large. Outspoken former DTH dancer Nikkia Parish said that Arthur Mitchell would frequently keep rebellious dancers in line by reminding them that he'd taken a chance on them when other companies - meaning white companies - hadn't given them the time of day. Emotionally blackmailing people in to staying with a company even when you aren't artistically fulfilled out of some form of racial solidarity isn't fair. But I wouldn't be surprised if that didn't occur on some occasions at DTH. The irony of DePrince's situation is that in her case, and her case alone, she might have been better if she'd stayed with DTH, at least an extra year. Having seen her dancing after she graduated from JKO school, I can honestly say that she lacked polish and she may have been turned down by the big , white, companies she dreamed of, simply because she needed more seasoning. That being the case, she should have been grateful to DTH for giving her more time to grow. After all, one of their goals is to develop minority classical dancers. Perhaps she was grateful, but still wanted to move on at the first available chance. Also, DTH powers that be, are frankly, just sensitive to the assumption that because they aren't a big, classical company with a huge endowment, they are therefore, second-rate. Hearing that kind of talk does not make Virginia happy. So leaving for that very kind of company probably doesn't make her happy either. But then, Michaela isn't the only person as who's recently left for a white company. Gabrielle Savatto also left to go to Ballet West. But then, other black dancers whose careers have stalled at a white companies, like Alison Stroming, have filled the gaps at DTH. I want Michaela to succeed because she wants it so much and because I want to see diversity in ballet. But would she have all this attention without her unique history? Probably not.
  15. Tapfan

    Sergei Polunin

    I thought he'd retired as a professional classical dancer and was focused on becoming an actor. If he's fallen out of love with ballet, how good can he continue to be? He has stage presence and loads of charisma. I was looking forward to seeing him try his hand at acting.
  16. Tapfan

    Misty Copeland

    Why, the posts of some folks at this very forum. Surely you've seen that Misty is a lightening rod for controversy amongst some balletomanes.
  17. Tapfan

    Misty Copeland

    These ladies don't need a PR machine to gain fame. Their dancing speaks for itself, and they engage in numerous projects outside of NYCB that they find artistically gratifying. Tiler Peck starred in a musical recently, and also recently starred in a televised NY Philharmonic production of Carousel. Bouder performs all over the world. She receives invitations from many top ranked ballet companies and international festivals. Mearns has numerous outside projects, and was recnetly dubbed by the lead critic of the NY Times as one of America's leading ballerinas (not an exact quote, but that was the gist. That's publicity enough. My point isn't that they need a massive PR system to be recognized as great artists.I know that they are held in high esteem within ballet circles. My point is that Misty is resented because she's better known than any of them. I also agree that fame isn't everything. But evidently some balletomanes don't know this because THEY are the ones who seem to be angriest about Copeland's high profile.
  18. Tapfan

    Misty Copeland

    What bothers me about this statement is that she says she was uncomfortable with not having black role models around, yet she leaves DTH. I'm not of the opinion that SOME black dancers have that something that is predominately black is automatically inferior. She wanted to dance for a large classical company, but none in the U.S. wanted her.
  19. Tapfan

    Misty Copeland

    I know Misty Copeland irritates the hell out of some folks. But darn it if this woman isn't the best PR machine U. S. ballet has ever seen. I used to think she was a role model for black and brown girls only and that her ballet evangelism was reaching only non-whites. As Chris Rock would say, I thought she was just "back famous." But you see so many young white girls at her book signings and public appearances. Whether it's the underdog resonance of her story, her relentless selling of said story or some combination of the two, she's stirring up interest in the art. I can understand why her stratospheric profile would be annoying to those who feel other ballerinas are more deserving of all the attention. But exactly what is stopping Tiler Peck, Ashley Bouder or Sara Mearns from doing a better job at publicizing themselves AND their art form? If they aren't as famous as Misty, that's hardly Misty's fault.
  20. Here's a link to a discussion about the lack of racial diversity in ballet. Especially concerning the lack of black females in the field. It's titled, Black Swans: Solidarity beyond colored pointe shoes. The sound quality is bad in spots, they should have had Viriginia Johnson on the panel, they didn't allow enough time to cover the issue in depth and they allowed the dance critic/historian to drone on and take up too much speaking time. Still, they did discuss some matters that I and others have mentioned frequently on this forum. I also was surprised to find out that I know more about the black women in ballet companies across the county than some of the so-called experts. For instance, the panel had to be told about Courtney Lavine was at ABT and nobody even mentioned Olivia Boisson at City Ballet. But then, sisters do tend to get lost at City Ballet.
  21. The African-American duo, I guess. (rolling eyes) Misty isn't very tall, but has long torso in proportion to legs compared to average classical ballet dancer nowadays. I usually don't have much good to say about the two biggest NYC Ballet companies, but I'm happy to see a black dancer get a bigger part.
  22. Tapfan

    Sergei Polunin

    I agree with Alonzo King who essentially said that ballet is a language and its poor usage shouldn't be blamed on the music or the language itself. It's up to the choreographer to make it work regardless of the music.
  23. Tapfan

    Sergei Polunin

    That Take Me to Church video has almost 4 and a half million views. Does any other video featuring ballet dancing come close? I know that The Joffrey Ballet had a great success with choreography done to Prince music. And of course there was Twyla Tharp's Deuce Coupe done to Beach Boys music. But why aren't more ballets set to popular music? Are the gatekeepers of the art form afraid that it's not ballet if it's not done to classical music?
  24. Tapfan

    Sergei Polunin

    I knew about Polunin's tatoos, I just thought they were covered by a tight, red, shirt. Turns out it was Ball's tight, red, shirt. Btw, what's with those tight dancers shorts some of the guys wear? They make bootie shorts look demure. Not that I'm complaining. I see why male classical dancers frequently make good runway models. They are used to being on stage, are comfortable with their bodies and NOTHING they might be required to wear in a fashion show could possibly embarrass them. Not after they've worn skintight dancer's shorts or postage stamp-sized loincloths.
  25. Tapfan

    Sergei Polunin

    Thanks meunier fan. Wow. Polunin and Ball look like they were separated at birth. Not only do they have striking facial similarities and the same floppy hair, but they have almost identical physical builds .
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