Danse Serpentine, and possibly Loie Fuller footage

[pherank]

Lumiere Brothers film of Danse Serpentine - dancer is perhaps Loie Fuller, but I've seen disagreement about this. One commentator suggested, "The Flame Dancer is Caroline Hipple Holpin or Papinta not Fuller".

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But wait, there's more of the Danse Serpentine as captured by early film pioneers:

[sandik]

I've always been told that the first clip you posted was not Fuller. Here's a clip from The Bat that I think is Fuller. Some of you may have seen Jody Sperling's work -- she's reconstructed some of Fuller's dances, and has gone on to create new work using some of the same techniques.

[pherank]

I've always been told that the first clip you posted was not Fuller. Here's a clip from The Bat that I think is Fuller. Some of you may have seen Jody Sperling's work -- she's reconstructed some of Fuller's dances, and has gone on to create new work using some of the same techniques.

Thanks for finding The Bat, Sandik. At first I was bothered by the lack of music in these films, but eventually it becomes quite mesmerizing...I hope there's no subliminal message coming across. ;)

[rg]

i understood over the years there were no films of Fuller.

[sandik]

I was told that the Bat clip was likely Fuller, and it does resemble some of the still pictures I've seen, but I'm not the authority in this.