rg Posted September 14, 2003 Share Posted September 14, 2003 before hoping to post three (one at a time i think) pix from the period of the revival of BAYADERKA acknowledged in the current vikharev prod. for the maryinsky, let me try to recall something a curator from leningrad said when she was here for a show at nyc's nahamkin gallery, called '100 years of russian ballet' but as one moskovite pointed really offering a hundred years of st. petersburg/russian ballet. when i pointed to similarities between items listed as e.ponomarev and i.vsevolozhsky she insisted that e.p. was essentially the house costume builder, and that in many cases the designer was i.v. but that as intendant, etc. he didn't always want to be seen also as costume designer, so that it MAY just be that some of the costumes attributed to e.p. are actually from the imagination of i.v. in any case, the point of my post is to put up some little illustrations from the turn of the 20th c. let me try to shed some illustration on the story here: i have no idea of the precise dates of any of these pictures. as many may know ekaterina geltzer was a moscow ballerina and pavel gerdt was from the st. petersburg co. but he obviously performed BAYADERKA w/ e.g. whether in moscow or st. pete and in what actual year i cannot say. as we know the 1900 revival was staged, initially, for p.g. and m.kchessinska. in any case here are 3 pix: one of e.g. as nikiya w/ the snake. another of e.g. in a shades costume, w/veil. another of her sitting on solor's lap as provided by p.g. Link to comment
rg Posted September 14, 2003 Author Share Posted September 14, 2003 on mo' time! e.g. as nikiya w/ snake Link to comment
rg Posted September 14, 2003 Author Share Posted September 14, 2003 e.g. as nikiya's shade Link to comment
Alexandra Posted September 14, 2003 Share Posted September 14, 2003 Thanks, rg. I especially love the snake one -- the dress, the stance, the hair (and the snake!) Link to comment
Marc Haegeman Posted September 14, 2003 Share Posted September 14, 2003 Thanks rg. Always fascinating to see. I have a similar photo of Geltser (#1) with the snake and mine is dated 1917, when Gorsky staged it for the Bolshoi in Moscow. Link to comment
K2356 Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 rg - when did you start collecting( i assume) and posting old ballet photos, they are wonderful, keep up the good work. - kevin Link to comment
Paul Parish Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 me too, RG -- though my favorite is the croise derriere, such beautiful turnout for an old photograph -- also such beautiful epaulement, and the way she has of making hte scarf seem to be billowing -- a noble image. Link to comment
carbro Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 I like the scarf one best, too, for exactly the reasons Paul noted. But they are each, in their own way, a treasure. Thanks mucho, rg! Link to comment
rg Posted November 22, 2003 Author Share Posted November 22, 2003 re: collecting, i suppose i've been collecting ballet memorabilia ever since i first got a program and just couldn't throw it away. many years later, i find that i have had to throw out some things, but never enough it seems. i became interested in russian ballet cards specifically, probably, in 1983 when a few colleagues met a great collector in the soviet union and this fellow, alas now gone, gave two of our group some of his cards. writer, cunningham archivist and one-time dancer and performer, david vaughan was the first i knew personally who had a fine collection, especially of his beloved teacher a. n. obukhov. (many of his treasures were published in his loving tribute to obukhov - 'beautifully dance' in BALLET REVIEW). so my interest in and aquisition of similar cards began slowly and grew and grew ever since then. (i have no idea why/how this thread got awakened, btw, but in honor of the occasion i'll post a couple other items.) Link to comment
rg Posted November 22, 2003 Author Share Posted November 22, 2003 this picture helps keep the ponamarev them: Victor Aleksandrovich Semenov, Elena Mikhailovna Lukom & Vladimir Ivanovich Ponomarev as, respectively, Grasshopper, Butterfly and Phoenix/Butterfly, LES CAPRICES DU PAPILLON, 1919 Link to comment
rg Posted November 22, 2003 Author Share Posted November 22, 2003 to elaborate my commentary about the postcards of a.n.obukhov, here's one of him in the costume i've been led to understand nijinsky was responsible for devising, to replace/un-date the vsevolozhsky original. i have no precise date for this photo. Link to comment
Thalictum Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 Priceless images -- please keep them coming! Link to comment
rg Posted November 22, 2003 Author Share Posted November 22, 2003 here's a photo with [Pierre] VLADIMIROV (in cyrillic script) written (in pencil) on the card. the odd thing about this is that it likely post-dates nijinsky's debut as the bluebird but yet it reverts to the 'original' costume. (as more than one observer has pointed out, balletalert's doug, for one, this may well not have been the costume worn for the pas de deux, but rather that worn for the cortege of fairy-tale characters that occurs at the start of act 3.) Link to comment
Alexandra Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 Thanks, as always, rg -- and a comment/question about the arms in the a.n.obukhov photo above. They are close to the face, nearly covering the face, not the more "precise" arms en couronne that we see today -- they're not far off from the Danish at that time, from photographic evidence. Bournonville wrote that he hated straight lines -- that nature abhorred straight lines. Commentators refer to his arm positions as "vinelike." According to several reviews of Fokine's ballets set on the RDB in the 1920s that his line was "distorted" -- too "linear," not as soft and "vinelike" as Bournonville's. Though Fokine, I've read, was aiming toward a soft line. I suppose my question is -- can anyone untangle this web? (I can't scan in any of the Bournonville photographs as the ones I have are in books, and would be a copyright issue.) A costume note, but not unrelated: during the same time period (late 19th/early 20th century, and probably before as well) hats were worn so that the brim shielded the face. I don't know whether this was an aesthetic, philosophical or cultural issue -- any costume historians able to shed light on this? Link to comment
carbro Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 Alexandra, I claim no expertise of any kind here, but the beautiful curves of the Obukhov photo instantly struck me as evocative of that era's Art Nouveau -- like "Spectre," just an example of its own zeitgeist. Link to comment
dido Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 Can I just echo Thaliticum and say I pounce on all of your posts, rg? I always know I'm going to read (and especially see!) something totally new and wonderful. Thank you SO much! ps Sorry to derail the intellectual discussion a bit, Alexandra. Isn't there a picture of Nijinsky as Sigfried with his arm draped over his head, forearm crossing his brow? Or maybe I'm confabulating that with the Spectre picture... Link to comment
Mel Johnson Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 You know, carbro, I thought of "Spectre" immediately I saw that picture. I just never thought to link it with Art Nouveau. And considering the drooping, swirling arches of Nouveau decoration, you have something there! (But maybe it's not zeitgeist - maybe it's Rosengeist! ) Link to comment
Mel Johnson Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 Isn't there a picture of Nijinsky as Sigfried with his arm draped over his head, forearm crossing his brow? I think I know the picture you reference, dido, and I believe that it's of Nijinsky as Albrecht, doing the chassé coupé temps levé-assemblé-double tour diagonal just before the very end of his variation in Act II. Link to comment
Alexandra Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 Spectre may very well be art nouveau, but the low and "vinelike" arms date to at least the 1860s (in Danish photographs). Link to comment
rg Posted November 23, 2003 Author Share Posted November 23, 2003 i'm not able to shed much light here, i'm afraid, being neither a scholar of technique including stylistic preferences from school to school, nor familiar with the perf. history of bluebird up to and through obukhov's participation. one can get dates from the nijinsky photos referred to elsewhere in this thread (for ex. v.n's debut as bluebird took place in 1907). a.n.o was born 1896 some six or so years after v.n. so ball-park fig. might put the obukhov photo as 1913 or so. a few thoughts that might pertain: the arm position in the obukhov photo - a version of 'en couronne' - may be a pose from the role or may be a position chosen and held by the dancer for the photo's duration - the droop could well represent comfort range for holding such a position long enough to 'get' the picture. i also repeat here something balanchine reportedly said when someone asked him the name - i.e. the technical/academic/studio/school term - for a certain moment. 'is not school,' he reportedly said, 'is choreography.' all of which goes to say that what is practiced in class may or may be what's precisely desired by a balletmaster. (the bluebird is an apt ex. in this case. again in balanchinean lore, someone at a teaching seminar once asked him about brise-vole and he asked: do you mean brise-vole or 'bird' (as in bluebird) step? which, o'course involves a choreographic variation on brise-vole but is not the step, per se. (if mem. serves mr. b. referred to the bird-step he felt he was being asked about, as the 'nijinsky step.') i hope i've made a bit of sense. Link to comment
rg Posted November 23, 2003 Author Share Posted November 23, 2003 a second obukhov card a bluebird. Link to comment
EricMontreal22 Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 here's a photo with [Pierre] VLADIMIROV (in cyrillic script) written (in pencil) on the card. the odd thing about this is that it likely post-dates nijinsky's debut as the bluebird but yet it reverts to the 'original' costume. (as more than one observer has pointed out, balletalert's doug, for one, this may well not have been the costume worn for the pas de deux, but rather that worn for the cortege of fairy-tale characters that occurs at the start of act 3.) That was always my suspicion--it seems it would be impossible to leap around with THAT HAT. Wow. But then is this a change from the original production that wasn't used in the reconstruction? Did they purposefully go for the later desing, or is it what they also found in the costume desings of Vsevolozhsky (I knwo they built the costumes newly from his original designs and not from the photos of them we have)? Fascinating at any rate. Link to comment
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