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Sergei Filin Attacked


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#586 Mashinka

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 08:42 AM

I notice the idea of 'Innocent until proved guilty' doesn't carry much weight here.

#587 canbelto

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 09:07 AM

I notice the idea of 'Innocent until proved guilty' doesn't carry much weight here.


I'm not saying the accused aren't innocent. I'm saying that the implication that Filin must be faking the injuries is taking "blame the victim" to a new level.

#588 Helene

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 09:14 AM

I tend to take confessions seriously, especially when one of the confessed states in front of a judge that he contracted a beating, not an acid attack, and, therefore, he has nothing to be sorry about.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 10:08 AM

one thing I noticed in the pictures is the massive swelling in Mr Filin's face. Normally he has extremely low body fat, high cheekbones and a chiseled profile. Now he looks extremely swollen. From the articles earlier in this thread, it was stated that the acid mostly went to the scalp and eyes.

How horrible that Mr Filin is getting the best expert treatment in all of Europe - only to have that excellent treatment result used against him, as if his injuries are all a hoax!


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#590 elena

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 04:17 PM

one thing I noticed in the pictures is the massive swelling in Mr Filin's face. Normally he has extremely low body fat, high cheekbones and a chiseled profile. Now he looks extremely swollen. From the articles earlier in this thread, it was stated that the acid mostly went to the scalp and eyes.

How horrible that Mr Filin is getting the best expert treatment in all of Europe - only to have that excellent treatment result used against him, as if his injuries are all a hoax!


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Agreed... you can see his face is very swollen compared to how he looked before. His skin may be clear, but he looks different.

I personally don't understand the whole hoax theory. I don't see what he has to gain from this at all. I do see, however, what he has to lose - his eyesight, his job and ability work in what he is passionate about. He'd give that up to stage some elaborate hoax why exactly?

Talk about adding insult to injury. Just my opinion.

#591 Helene

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 10:31 AM

On her blog, Ismene Brown posted a translation of a Facebook post by Maria Prorvich on behalf of her husband, in which he talks about his latest surgery and those who have supported him:

http://www.ismeneb.c...m_Facebook.html

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 10:44 AM

Jayne - thank you for posting the 2 photos together. Really puts his condition into perspective. I've not been following this situation daily and haven't read every comment here on it (just too much info and drama). But, sure hope he can recover his eyesight and get back to his work; and the idiot(s) who are responsible are caught.

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 08:07 AM

In one of her latest blogs, Ismene Brown writes that Dmitrichenko is claiming to have notebooks that contain evidence against Filin but he won't reveal what that is until his trial.

 

 

http://www.ismeneb.c...l_in_court.html

 

I'm confused - I thought Dmitrichenko was the one on trial, not Sergei Filin. 



#594 Mashinka

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 08:30 AM

Interesting that no definite trial date is set and  bail is again refused therefore Dmitrichenko must rot in jail.



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Posted 14 June 2013 - 08:55 AM

In U.S. lawdiscovery is the pre-trial phase in a lawsuit in which each party, through the law of civil procedure, can obtain evidence from the opposing party by means of discovery devices including requests for answers to interrogatories, requests for production of documents, requests for admissions and depositions. Discovery can be obtained from non-parties using subpoenas. When discovery requests are objected to, the requesting party may seek the assistance of the court by filing a motion to compel discovery.

(from Wikipedia)

 

um.............guess they don't have discovery in Russian courts???? innocent.gif



#596 Alayna

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 09:32 AM

um.............guess they don't have discovery in Russian courts???? innocent.gif

 

 

 

I guess not. And how would these notebooks be relevant to the case anyway? I don't care what Dmitrichenko thinks he can prove, nothing justifies the attack on Sergei Filin. 



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Posted 14 June 2013 - 09:54 AM

indeed!



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Posted 14 June 2013 - 10:09 AM

um.............guess they don't have discovery in Russian courts???? innocent.gif
 

They must have at least some discovery:  Dmitrichenko's lawyers stated that they are entitled to have Russian doctors confirm the extent of Filin's injuries, and that, at least, must count towards discover.
 


I guess not. And how would these notebooks be relevant to the case anyway? I don't care what Dmitrichenko thinks he can prove, nothing justifies the attack on Sergei Filin. 
 

That might not be the legal principle here.  Certainly mitigating circumstances are taken into consideration in the US confederation of systems (in addition to the Federal one), and prosecutors have lost trials by going for more serious charges for which juries had reasonable doubt.  This is one of the reasons for choosing a charge of manslaughter vs. murder, or second-degree vs. first-degree murder in states where there is a death penalty.
 
Zarutsky, the alleged attacker, had already killed someone in a contracted beating, and he didn't do the time that he and Dmitrichenko would face if convicted here.  (I don't remember what the charges against Lipatov were.)  There may have been a case-specific reason for this, or it may have been the general principal that contract beatings are not that serious, even when they result in death.  Certainly that was the underlying argument Dmitrichenko was making when he told a judge he only wanted Filin beaten, and that since he never chose the acid attack, he shouldn't be facing severe charges, and he has nothing for which to apologize.
 
Intent may also be a legal principle in Russia.

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Posted 18 June 2013 - 07:36 AM

As of yesterday, the Bolshoi Theater press office is publishing a daily English-language newsletter in PDF format. You can sign up by sending a request to newsletters@bolshoi.ru.

 

Today's newsletter includes a quote from Sergei Filin, who says that he has no vision in his right eye and about 10% vision in his left eye. The information comes from a statement he made to the ITAR-TASS agency. http://www.itar-tass.../c9/772823.html



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Posted 19 June 2013 - 12:03 PM

http://www.itar-tass.../c9/777355.html

 

 

This linked article is in Russian but I used the Google translator to read it.  It says that the doctors who treated Filin in Moscow have come forward to deny the allegations that his injuries have been faked or exaggerated.




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