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so what exactly does this score contain from Pugni's "Pharoah's Daughter"?

I was wondering RG if you have any news on the work by Mr. Edgecombe on balet music that you talked about in this previous topic...... http://ballettalk.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=20509

Myrtha - I found a recording called "Egyptian Nights" on Amazon.com - the music is by Arensky as stated by RG, it is played by the moscow symphony orchestra. Right now the sound on my computer is screwed up so I cant sample the tunes - is this the CD you were talking about? Heres the link - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00000468...v=glance&n=5174

any pics anyone?

-- Heres a pic of Maestro Minkus I thought you guys would like - http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/4934/minkus5an.png -- Heres another pne, this one is always in CD booklets, etc. http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/4066/pic556bm.jpg Anybody got any pics of Drigo, Schnietzhoeffer, Adam, or Pungi? There is a pic of Pugni in Wiley's book "A Century of Russian Ballet", and a good one of Adam in the booklet that comes with Bonynge's recording of "Le Corsaire". Ive seen a picture of Drigo on the cover of a book of piano music a piano player had in one of my ballet classes when I was at SAB. I think that Balanchine includes a pic of him in his book "Balanchine's Tchaikovsky".

I did a search here on ballettalk.com and scanned through old posts concerning La bayadere and the Bazhok variation, and unfortunatly found nothing on the subject regarding its musical origins.

COME ON YOU GUYS!

what an awesome pic rg! Maybe it was your book, Ballet 101, where I read what ballet the Bronze Idol/Little God solo came from. I swear, I have read and have heard from SOMEWHERE that the music was written by Minkus, and was a piece from one of his ballets - It was a march/procession of sorts from one of his ballets. any info on these questions? - As well, I know that there is a march by Minkus of some kind that I have read was used by the White Army in Imperial Russia. Also, I think it was Balanchine that said it in one of his books, that the Czar was prepaired to pay for the Imperial Ballet's expenses as long as he could hear (I think) a particular number from some ballet - Im not sure which - I think it was from "The Little Humpbacked Horse"

No....it is Minkus' composition. Just because he had been dead for some time (he died in 1917) before the number was put into "La Bayadere" doesnt mean that he didnt write it. The number comes from one of his ballets, but Im not sure which. It is perhaps the only number Minkus ever wrote in 5/4.

What ballet does the music for this variation come from? I know its by Minkus, but I forgot which ballet it was. As well, I know that there is a march by Minkus of some kind that I have read was used by the White Army in Imperial Russia. Also, I think it was Balanchine that said it in one of his books, that the Czar was prepaired to pay for the Imperial Ballet's expenses as long as he could hear (I think) a particular number from some ballet - Im not sure which - I think it was from "The Little Humpbacked Horse"

Oh goodness no. If the music from this ballet was to ever be recorded I would be SHOCKED!

I saw a film of Spessivtseva dancing this same variation, and she did the pique turns (or maybe outside pique turns aka lame ducks) on the diagnale at the end of the variation. I think she was the first to dance this variation, at least that is what she says as well as Anton Dolin in the film "A Portrait of Giselle", though Ive read here and there that Petipa added the variation to the ballet for the ballerina Emma Bessone for his 1887 revival to the music of Minkus. Perhaps the variation was only performed when Bessone danced the ballet, and was put back in via Spessivtseva. I like the Kirov's version the best out of any in the world. Ive seenquite a few Giselles live - all only the USA though, all of the European versions Ive seen have only been on film on film. All of the versions I have seen danced by American companies have had pretty much the same choreography. If you watch the film of Baryshnikov and Makarova, ABT dances a staging like all the rest of the US companies as far as choreography goes. These versions are different from the Kirov's staging, which I have read apparently has not changed much since Petipa's last staging in 1903 for Pavlova (as well, I have also read that "Giselle" is the only ballet in the classical repertoire of the Kirov that has not been changed over and over through time as with the other ballets). The choreography of ABT's and the kirov's versions have the same 'foundation' but different details if you get what I mean. ABT's version is choreographicaly simaler to the Royal Ballet's version. The Kirov's version is divine.....SO VERY DIVINE. In ABT's version the Dances of teh Wilis are very different, the biggest difference between thiers and ABT's is that Myrtha is in the middle during the 'Entree', and all of the ballerinas are grouped arounf her, where as the Kirov's doesnt have Myrtha on stage untill her section of the pas, and the ballerinas are in close rows. As well ABT's verions has Giselle's Act I variation danced for Albrecht's fiancee (I thin her name is Bathilde), where as the Kirov's has the variation after the 'Grape Pickers' come in. ABT uses, at least in the Baryishnikov/Makarova film, a version of the music re-orchestrated by Lanchbery. I dont know if they still do (do they?). Why ABT chose to have the score re-orchestrated is beyond me, as Adam's acore is a masterpiece in its original form. I do feel however that Lanchbery's work on the score is very very good, but not nesessary at all. Anyone know why this was done? Anyone know if ABT still uses this version of the music?

Does anyone know?

Greetings KnightRuppert! I have this performance along with the accompanying documentary.........

Lets play "Taps" on the Trumpet - The recording of La Bayadere/Paquita by Boris Spassov and the Sofia National Opera Orchestra has recently gone out of print. I have this recording, but Im getting really tired of great ballet music on CD going out of print! Maybe I should start my own record label for ballet music only! If anyone doesnt have this recrding, you should get it! Maybe Ebay?

anybody? anybody?

I have a recording by Bonynge of the ballet "La Peri" by Frederick Burgmuller.....does anyone know the orgins of this ballet? Its history etc.

anybody? anybody?

Indeed I do! I know EXACTLY what you are talking about. I find this problem with just about every recording of ballet music that is out there. As far as the variations of Raymonda go in the Anisimov recording, indeed they are at totally improper tempos. The variatioin Anisimov recorded for the vision scene is the original solo Glazunov composed for the ballet, but at Petipa's request was ommited in favor of the "Scenes de Ballet" waltz, which was subsequently re-orchestrated for the 1898 produstion by Glazunov for a solo violin and is still performed today in the vision scene by not only the Bolshoi but everyone else. As far as the solo for Raymonda in the Act II Pas d'action with Abderakhman is conducted entirly to fast, as well as the Grand Pas Hongrois variation to solo piano for Raymonda in the 3rd Act. This is a problem that is found in just about every recording of the great classics. Silvy - You should get Fedotov's recording of Raymonda, it is of the Soviet version and conducted very well (especially the variations). It is out-of-print, but has been re-released though ( http://www.classicalrecords.ru/cr/cd-en/043.htm ). Its kind of a pain to get a hold, but worth it. You can also get his recording of the 1895 "Swan Lake" ( http://www.classicalrecords.ru/cr/cd-en/042.htm ).

--In Vol. 2 of the DVD of "Nina Ananiashvili & Internat'l Stars", there is a performance of the Pas from "Don Quixote". Ananiashvili and Fadeyechev dance the Adagio and everyone else dances solos from either "Don Quixote" or the "Paquita" Grand Pas Classique......... Yuri Possokhov dances a variation I have never heard and/or seen before.......it is the typical 19th century 3/4 male variation (2 or 4 bars to start, 16 bars of the main melody, 16 bars of a central melody, and then back to the main melody for 16 bars to the finish). Where does this variation come from? --What of Solor's Grand Pas Classique variation.....where does this variation come from? --In the Bolshoi's film of "La Bayadere", Alexander Vetrov (who performs Solor) dances a variation in the Act II Grand Pas Classique in place of the traditional variation for Solor. Again, this variation has the typical 19th century male variation formula (in 3/4 for about 48 bars). I have never heard/seen this variation anywhere else either (Vetrov dances the traditional solo for Solor in the Shades scene, thus warranting the substitution). Where does this variation come from?

Does anyone know the orgins of the "Pas des Odaliques"? Adam composed the Entree and the 3rd variation, both numbers are included in the Bonynge recording of the 1867 Paris Opera conductors score. But what of the Coda, and 1st, and 2nd variations? when was this pas first assembled? how authentic is the version danced today to the orginal?

The ballerina in this photo (according to the writing) is Pavlova. I have difficulty reading Russian script sometimes. I am able to pick apart some of what is written, but not enough to say for sure. I will show it to a Russian collegue. Maybe she will know. The letter does begin...Dear Marius...I believe. This ballerina is Bakerkina, according to what is written. St. Petersburg. She is not listed in the 1981 Russian language edition of the Ballet Encyclopedia. Again, I will ask my collegue. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Dear Marius?????? Well It was given to Petipa then? I have never heard of any other men named Marius involved with the old Imperial Ballet or any other part of the ballet at the time.......... Yes RG, I have heard of this as well.....the 'grave clothes colored' tutu Kschessinskaya gave to Karsavina.....what a ruthless ole dame she was!

LOL!

Does anyone know what this photo says? - http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/4754/282737hc.th.jpg Does anyone have any info on this ballerina? http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/5535/812459oj.th.jpg

Thanks for the corrections RG I assumed it was either Moyna or Zulma that Kurgapkina was photographed as because I dont think either Myrtha or Giselle have the flowers running on the diagnale down the tunic in the traditional Kirov Wilis costumes, but I may be mistaken I couldve sworn that was Esmeralda that Zucchi was photographed as, but then Im sure she danced other roles where the main prop was a tamborine. You were right about Nunephar RG for the 'butterfly Preobrajenskaya' photo, as there is another picture of her in the same costume in the book "The great Russian Danecrs" by Smakov. I honestly though the photo of Elena Smirnova was Kschessinskaya (2nd from top) nice collage Dr Coppelius! I made it my wall paper! does anyone know who the ballerina in the 4th photo from the bottom is?