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puppytreats

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  1. She was not told to file a formal complaint about non-payment. Helene, This was in response to Swanchat, who stated: "If she was on a regular contract and wasn't paid regularly, then after the 2nd missed payment, she should have lodged a formal complaint, requested her pay and left with her training and company affiliation on her resume."
  2. One cannot "substantiate" words that are spoken. Her filing a formal complaint would not "substantiate" anything. Sure the cops could send her back with a wire to try to get someone to repeat it, but why would she do that? It is a non sequitur to say she did not like advice to find out the way it is done (a sponsor/lover and/or a payment) and then complained (about him? seeking) extortion She apparently was asked why she left, and, according to Keim, said she did not want to make a payment or get a sponsor. If one did not like Filin's advice, why would one make up a complaint about him?
  3. 1. An article 2 days ago stated that two high level people threatened her, and I characterized what Filin's lawyer stated as a threat. I interpret a threat to mean something very different from advice to go learn the ropes, or a whisper in the ear, saying that is not the best way to achieve one's goals. 2. I don't think anyone can "protect" her and many probably would not even want to protect her. Someone once dumped a body behind a fence across the street in front of my home. They then walked across the street and asked my mother, "Did you see anything?" She told them, "No, I don't know wh
  4. I think this is sound advice for her since she's unwilling to make an official complaint. A big difference exists between a threat and sound advice.
  5. 1. She is criticized for having pursued (being advised to pursue?) a bad, high profile, (risky?) social media pr strategy, which backfired, and now you suggest she follow a standard Hollywood pr strategy, by going to rehab? 2. By the way, rehab for what? Having had childhood dreams? Growing up? Moving on? Giving up a dream? Not buying the hype? That is not an addiction. 3. I am sure after you suggest that she pursue a pr advised rehab period, the criticism of her credibility for going to rehab would follow. 4. I don't understand the dancer for Jesus claim or the quotation or how it ap
  6. Helene says her situation was not unique. Many articles about Womack quote dancers who say that what Womack said is not far off. Others on these boards say it is the Russian way. The "New Yorker" magazine article on the Bolshoi renovation said that the locals thought the bribes and sexual favors were no big deal, and shrugged it off. Certainly, Pavel D. Nichola Tsiskaridze, A. Voloch__ (sorry spelling) and the open letter writers support claims about the favors and money. Certainly we know about the money lost in the renovation, the power struggles, and the acid violence. That is why I don't
  7. 1. Yes, often claiming someone who is rightfully "disgruntled" is "effective" and suffices to eliminate any objective review of the content of the fired employees' complaints, Helene. The smear defeats justice and revictimizes the employees. 2. Turandot, I don't see how being protective of or loyal to a director (whom she does not seem to have accused of wrongdoing) is equivalent to "forgiving" the theater. 3. Turandot, I agree with Helene regarding whistleblowing. Snowden was granted asylum in Russia, whereas she is in the center of the storm, complaining about her treatment in a Russian s
  8. 1. She seems to have left quickly - in her first year. 2. Have you ever had a nonpaid bill, been asked for time to make payment, wait for collections? Maybe she trusted them, gave them a chance, waited like she was told, expecting to get paid, and then couldn't live on vapors anymore. 3. I always laugh when employers excuse all of their misbehavior based on label of "disgruntled" employee. Almost anyone who leaves a job is "disgruntled". If one is not paid and leaves, one is rightfully "disgruntled." If one is told to rub the black off one's face, one is rightfully disgruntled. If
  9. You are right, i should have said "could" instead of "would". Maybe when the person discussed in the article said she was fired, he was saying that she was "fired", or constructively discharged, by giving her little to no work, giving her little to no pay (including "forgetting" to pay her - sorry, I forget which article), having high level teachers taunt her (article of 2 days ago), having high level people threaten her (article 2 days ago). It is like when a landlord somehow forgets to put the heat on, or fails to repair a leak, or blasts the radio all night, and then tenant loses the war
  10. Where did you read anything to give you the impression that she was trying to come across as a forgiving person? Do you equate moving on (from a situation involving threats, nonpayment, a violent environment) or leaving a nightmare with being forgiving? Is not going to the authorities, or not filing a lawsuit for the sake of being vindictive, the same as being forgiving?
  11. Turandot: The PR strategy employed by the dancers (who were advised by theaters/impresarios/competitions/guidebooks?) already backfired. I imagine the hospital threatening to and/or suing the surgeon who quit would face quite a similar result (a pr backfire). Of course, the hospital would smear the surgeon, maybe even plant information or pressure workers to testify falsely against the one who left. However, then the surgeon would be forced by the hospital to defend himself, with the information he had gathered, or testify under oath about what had happened to him, and then the hospital wo
  12. But didn't the news media quote the Bolshoi as saying she was fired? Are employees at her level at will employees? Did they fire her for cause as a contracted employee? Did they give a reason?
  13. Apparently some types of public assertions make management defensive, but not others. http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/us-ballerina-faces-discrimination-at-bolshoi-academy/489887.html?ask_mobile=Y
  14. If a thug came to one's door, and then the management told one to go to the police, and then one went to police, then that would be a very convenient way to end the scandal - go to police, thug finds out, no more witness, no testimony. Managements' hands are cleaned. I would not call that a lack of credibility. When did this tell-all book come into being, anyway? Is that what you call something to gain? I would call that a "smear" campaign. The girl walked away, she explained why when asked, end of story.
  15. This is an extremely wise statement! Deep inside I am already waiting for the news that Womack has signed a multi-million-dollar contract with an American publishing house for the tell-all tale "Shattered Swan" or that CBS will give her the lead in a made-for-television movie where she will walk in the final scene into the Siberian ice desert. Does anyone know whether there is any credibility to the claim that the Kremlin Ballet is interested in her? It must have a reason why she is neither confirming, nor denying a possible contract with them. Maybe this whole social media debate is why she
  16. You cannot accuse someone of a crime unless you can PROVE that it was committed. And she cannot prove that bribes were given and accepted. I am not accusing anyone of a crime. I don't think she accused anyone of a crime. I think she said she left because she did not want to become involved in paying for roles or finding a rich lover. which she was advised she had to do. She said she was told by the AD to find out how to play the game. She apparently did not feel it was worth it. She does not look like she is interested in accusing anyone of anything. Is she obligated to lie, particularl
  17. I think her vulnerability derived way before she spoke to anyone. Her vulnerability existed by virtue of her age, lack of money (a situation created by the theater to make her vulnerable), her lack of support, and the dangerous environment in which she found herself. (I would say all of the dancers are vulnerable). In any event, it doesn't justify subsequent threats. That is like blaming a victim.
  18. Did she not fit into the corps? Apparently. That has nothing to do with internal investigations or bribes. Did she not deserve solo roles (by virtue of time, talent, or bribes)? Apparently. Is it her fault that bribes were given and consequences may follow? No. Is it a "smear" to say bribes were given if they were? No Will bribes stop if that is the way? No, but maybe one person will be a sacrificial lamb Is it her fault that someone looked into bribes? Doubtful. I don't know how the "plea" and "cooperation" game works in Russia. I am thinking the anger is that she didn't give th
  19. Helene, I don't understand how her telling the truth renders her lacking in "credibility." The need to threaten her lends credence, which is why I don't understand why the theater's lawyer did it publicly. Her leaving and saying this is what happened to me is enough warning. Her $100 a week (when they remembered to pay her) is not the incentive you make it out to be. Several people discuss "inconsistency" in social media. Chatting on facebook/twitter/boards (if it is her, which some people here deny) is not a statement under oath and penalties of perjury. Who knows the context, whether s
  20. How does it not "fit"? It just means that she failed as a corps member, and should have been let go. It is entirely believable. Then she would just have been a fired dancer who did not have skills to dance in the corps, and was not good enough to beat the competition (through gamesmanship or talent) to dance as a soloist. If they had not threatened her publicly, and privately, then she would not have felt a need to seek protection herself or warn others.
  21. 1. I think the press may have been interested because of her being the first in, and her being the first out. Certainly, the theater wanted to promote her arrival, to attract students. 2. She said she felt an obligation to warn the people who might have followed in her footsteps (which had been publicized by the theater.) 3. I think the open threats by (a) Filin's lawyer and (b) two high level people in the theater, according to the yesterday's article, may have kept the press interested. (further supporting item 2 above) 4. If you were threatened by high level powerful people, really, ho
  22. ...That I agree ...That I agree with too. However, I suspect that she and those around her think the "ruckus" will help her career (outside of Russia at least)--they may be wrong, but...they may not be. Her career, or their investment?
  23. Julie is not listed in 2009 as one of the five highest paid employees, so maybe she took time off then.
  24. This recent quotation exemplifies why I discounted as convenient, facile, or insufficient, the suggestions that her ego and demand for solo roles, and her inability to deal with being a small fish in a big pond: "I begged to be put in corps de ballet just to be able to dance on the stage. 'No', they would say. 'You are sticking out, you are too different, you raise your leg too high, you do it way too emotionally.' She had to live on less than $500 a month in Moscow, one of the most expensive cities in the world, trying to eat her meals at the theater's canteen to save money. And even then sh
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