ronny Posted November 3, 2002 Share Posted November 3, 2002 The Classic Ballets each had a single composer because, of course, the composer wrote the music FOR that particular ballet, very simple. But my question doen't concern that, it has to do with the use of classical compositions for a new ballet... in other words, the music from the 19th century is adapted for use in a new production, for example... in Mayerling (composer-Franz Liszt), and in Lady of the Camellias (composer-Frederic Chopin). Now, in those cases, the music was NOT written for the ballet but was picked up much later and adapted for use in ballet. (or that is my understanding of it) So my question is this... do you know of any ballet production that uses the music from more than one composer? If so, I would be interested in knowing about that production. And if NOT, then I would want to ask... is there a kind of "taboo" against using the music from more than one composer to construct a new ballet? And if so,what is the nature of that taboo? Link to comment
Mel Johnson Posted November 3, 2002 Share Posted November 3, 2002 Nothing new here. The ballet La Source had a score that was shared by Leo Delibes and Ludwig Minkus. At least they did separate acts! During the twenties, the Ballet Suedois did a work with a fun score by six different composers! And it was only one act, "Les Maries de la Tour Eiffel"! However, any resemblance between that and classical ballet was purely coincidental. Minkus, before he went to Russia, arranged, and sometimes composed "filler" or "bridge" music for comic operas by Offenbach and Lalo. Stuart Sebastian's version of the omnipresent "Dracula" has different composers represented. There are many other examples, both original and assembled that use an assortment of composers. The trouble is, making an artistically harmonic mix! Link to comment
Nanatchka Posted November 3, 2002 Share Posted November 3, 2002 I should think the nature of that taboo would be somewhere in the realm of common sense. You wouldn't want a dinner that started with spring rolls , went on to lasagna with a side of coleslaw and half dill pickles, and finished up with a salzburger knockerl (I am not sure I spelled that right), or would you? Link to comment
Farrell Fan Posted November 3, 2002 Share Posted November 3, 2002 No, I don't think I'd want that dinner, but I don't mind seeing Vienna Waltzes, which is to music by three different composers. The most successful, and seamless, ballet to music of different composers, IMO, is Balanchine's Square Dance, to compositions of Antonio Vivaldi and Arcangelo Corelli. Link to comment
ronny Posted November 4, 2002 Author Share Posted November 4, 2002 Nanatchka, Sounds good to me! I think I'd eat the lasagna and cole slaw and put the rest in the fridge for harder times! Editing is like using the stuff that goes together and putting the rest in cold storage for possible consumption at a later time. Nice thing about classical music is that it never goes bad with age. But I may just pass on the pickles! And Mel, thanks for all the details. I don't know about Dracula, but I hear that it has been successful, so that makes the point. So its good to hear all these examples. It can be done, but it has to be done carefully... so that is encouraging. And mixing different styles of music may even be useful... for example in Swan Lake there is a scene with dancers from different countries, so naturally, it could be a place for different styles and different composers. So certain storys may even require diverse music. And Farrell Fan, glad to know that it was done by Balanchine also, that really gives the green light. Thanks again for your great replys, completely informative and fun too! Link to comment
Mel Johnson Posted November 4, 2002 Share Posted November 4, 2002 Ronny, there are other examples, too, like Bournonville's Far From Denmark, which has a "salmagundi"(or is it menu dégustation?) score made up of a basic frame by Hans Christian Lumbye, but a divertissement made up of "numbers" by all different composers, as the different nations are portrayed. North America, interestingly, is portrayed by Lumbye, and his "War Dance of the Red Indians" but South America and the Caribbean is portrayed by Louis Moreau Gottschalk with a pas de deux to "Le Bananier". Link to comment
Manhattnik Posted November 4, 2002 Share Posted November 4, 2002 Let's not forget Le Corsaire, with music by, well, too many cooks. Or Giselle, with added bits by Burgmuller (the Peasant Pas) and Minkus (the Spessivtseva solo in Act 1). Drigo had a hand in the posthumous orchestration of Swan Lake, didn't he? Link to comment
Alexandra Posted November 4, 2002 Share Posted November 4, 2002 In the 19th century there was a custom of orchestrating popular songs and inserting them into scores -- or arias from operas -- so that the audience would "sing" the words in their heads and know what was going on on stage. Subliminal surtitles. Link to comment
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