Alexandra Posted December 26, 2002 Share Posted December 26, 2002 well, tabloids have headlines, too. "Scientist To Clone 5 U.S. Presidents. News Readers get to pick." The photos included Lincoln and FDR, and then I averted my eyes:) Better than the People's Choice Awards! I thought we should have a chance to play, too. If the scientist has an interest in ballet -- or perhaps the First Runner Up Scientist; we can't be picky -- and you could pick 3 ballet people (choreographers, dancers, whatever) from the past to clone -- not bring back as little old men, but reborn, ready to apply their genius to today's troubled times -- who wouldl they be? (I am not making this up. Check it out when you go to the grocery store. It's the one with the screaming headline: 'Hitler's Whacky Predictions" which included "internet porn and the rise of J.Lo." I wish I wrote for a tabloid. It would be so much more FUN than writing about dance.!) Link to comment
sylvia Posted December 26, 2002 Share Posted December 26, 2002 Ooh, I'm about to run out the door but I couldn't resist, easily my picks would include Ashton and MacMillan. I would love, love, love to see what they could create on the dancers we have today, on Rojo, Kobborg, Cojocaru and Acosta... I'd love to see what Ashton would make of Sylvie Guillem! And what of her Marguerite (and Armand)? And hear what their views would be on all the issues in ballet at the moment - the internationlization of companies like the RB, how they would bring in new and younger audiences, see how their choreography would adapt to all these changes, that dancers are more athletic than they've ever been, the tendency towards over-extensions, etc, etc... and to see new work by them would make up just a little bit for all the ballets that are being 'lost' that I will never see. Can we choose composers as well? Link to comment
Alexandra Posted December 26, 2002 Author Share Posted December 26, 2002 Why not, Sylvia? In the spirit of the holidays, we should be generous! Link to comment
Mme. Hermine Posted December 27, 2002 Share Posted December 27, 2002 hmmm petipa balanchine ashton vaganova nijinsky Link to comment
Alexandra Posted December 27, 2002 Author Share Posted December 27, 2002 greedy. Good list, but greedy Link to comment
Mary J Posted December 27, 2002 Share Posted December 27, 2002 Kronstam Nureyev Bruhn talk about greedy Link to comment
Alexandra Posted December 27, 2002 Author Share Posted December 27, 2002 I'd like to give Fokine another shot, with a company this time. The others I revere -- dancers or choreographers -- would take one look, turn around and run, I fear, except possibly Balanchine, who is the one choreographer who could adapt to any age. And I'd be very curious to see how the Vestris family would make out in New York That's very greedy, because there were about a dozen oof them, but they'd share a room. Link to comment
Leigh Witchel Posted December 27, 2002 Share Posted December 27, 2002 I certainly concur with the others already mentioned, but if we've got room - Vera Volkova Lincoln Kirstein Bronislava Nijinska We need teachers and patrons too. And Nijinska, just because I want to see if there could have been more - or was Les Noces and Les Biches really it? Link to comment
Alexandra Posted December 27, 2002 Author Share Posted December 27, 2002 Kirstein -- good clone. Since my Vestris family suggestion was out of deviltry and curiosity, I'd trade them for Lincoln, with his vision and selflessness. I'd like to see what Nijinska would do, too, although she might well have been a modern dancer/choreographer rather than a ballet one had she joined the firmament at a later time. That, too, would have been interesting to see. Link to comment
Jane Simpson Posted December 27, 2002 Share Posted December 27, 2002 Tchaikowsky Fokine Nureyev Link to comment
Giannina Posted December 28, 2002 Share Posted December 28, 2002 Among others, John Cranko. Link to comment
Nanatchka Posted December 28, 2002 Share Posted December 28, 2002 I hate to ask, but can one really clone the dead? Doesn't the cell have to be living? Which would be a different question. But let's see. Tannaquil LeClerq (who will dance into old age) Balanchine Bournonville Igor Youskevitch Erik Bruhn Stanley Williams Is that too many? If we're back to presidents, I'd like to see Thomas Jefferson. Link to comment
Alexandra Posted December 28, 2002 Author Share Posted December 28, 2002 Of course one can clone the dead! Anything is possible...a hang of hair.... Link to comment
Mel Johnson Posted December 28, 2002 Share Posted December 28, 2002 If you have a complete DNA sequence intact, from either a living or a dead source, it is theoretically possible to clone a replicant of the donor. I don't know that anybody has done anything above microorganisms with dead donors. Dolly the sheep was the most complex organism ever positively known to be cloned to date. Link to comment
Alexandra Posted December 28, 2002 Author Share Posted December 28, 2002 Mel, it's a tabloid. Truth is not part of the equation!!! Link to comment
Leigh Witchel Posted December 28, 2002 Share Posted December 28, 2002 ELVIS SEEN CHOREOGRAPHING BALLET ON UFO WITH BIGFOOT IN LEAD! I miss the Weekly World News. I gave my brother a subscription as a gift when I was in college. He wouldn't speak to me for months. Link to comment
Farrell Fan Posted December 28, 2002 Share Posted December 28, 2002 In addition to all the choices already made, I'd bring back Danilova, Karinska, and Robert Irving. Link to comment
Amy Reusch Posted December 29, 2002 Share Posted December 29, 2002 I want to see the legendary ones, and even some still living that I never saw on stage live at their peak... Nijinsky, of course, Kscheshinska Farrell Bruhn Taglioni Humphrey Duncan Graham Spessivtzeva Ulanova St. Denis Limon ... oh darn, way past 10.... and not even mentioning Legnani or Essler But of course, without the original surrounding culture to inspire them the clones might just end up couch potatoes, right? Aren't clones supposed to be faded copies of the original... age faster, probably get injured & stiff sooner? Link to comment
carbro Posted December 30, 2002 Share Posted December 30, 2002 Are we limited to the dear departed? Or can we clone the alive but retired and/or alive and dancing? I'd nominate Carolyn Adams, who left such a huge void when she retired. Farrell, Vilella, Makarova, van Hamel. A clone of Gelsey Kirkland would probably require a second (back-up) clone, maybe a third, just to be sure. One of Jose Carreno for the coming generation, and one for the next and the next, etc. And Angel, although he appears likely to dance magnificently well into the future. Are there any administrators whose cloning we should lobby to prohibit? Link to comment
Alexandra Posted December 30, 2002 Author Share Posted December 30, 2002 Good poiint, Carbro. On a less serious note, perhaps we could clone some of today's traveling guest stars. Then they could dance everywhere, yet save on air fare! I can think of a lot of administrators I wouldn't want to clone, and few that I would! Link to comment
atm711 Posted January 1, 2003 Share Posted January 1, 2003 Well, I just finished reading a book called "The Secret" by Eva Hoffman on the very subject--so I feel fully qualified to name my clones: Diaghilev Balanchine Tudor Link to comment
carbro Posted January 2, 2003 Share Posted January 2, 2003 ME! Because someone's gotta be there to see Nijinsky II and Fonteyn II in the new ballets by Balanchine II, and then report back to Alexandra II and her circle at Ballet Alert II! ;) Link to comment
Estelle Posted January 2, 2003 Share Posted January 2, 2003 I'd add to the list Saint-Léon, Perrot, and also poor Giuseppina Bozzachi and Emma Livry, they had such short lives! Link to comment
Calliope Posted January 2, 2003 Share Posted January 2, 2003 I'd bring back Pavlova and Petipa, just to ask them what they thought about ballet today. I' d second Balanchine and Karinska LeClercq, Robbins and pull out of retirement Deborah Wingert, Farrell, Sibley, Arthur Mitchell. I'd clone Elizabeth Walker too, just so she's always there Link to comment
carbro Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 On a different thread, I just nominated Frederic Franklin, but I thought it would be fun to revive this old thread. We've gained hundreds of new members since Alexandra first posed the question and Calliope added the last reply. Link to comment
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