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Is Alyona Kovalyova "Zvezda" material ??

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I feel somewhat overwhelmed dealing with the opinions of ballet instructors and others who focus very heavily on technique, but I will stick to my feelings. I think that she's beautiful and is being steered in the right direction. I also believe that 'experts' can disagree on the best way to proceed and what looks beautiful.  There are others whom I respect who are extremely impressed by what they've seen her do.  But the fact that she looks great to me is pretty much my bottom line. [Added: it certainly doesn't have to be someone else's]

Drew, I would guess that Fraildove was referring to Alina Somova both times. By the way, I liked her from the very start. To each, her or his own.

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3 hours ago, Buddy said:

I think that she's beautiful and is being steered in the right direction. I also believe that 'experts' can disagree on the best way to proceed and what looks beautiful.

Vaziyev seems to enjoy throwing in new talent at the deep end - imho Alyona did not sink but swam both in Swan Lake and Bayaderka. Didn't Vaziyev suddenly cast Shreiner (correct ?) as the lead for Swan Lake on the London tour two years ago ??

PS :  Shreiner correct,  Swan Lake wrong : she was cast as Kitri in Don Kixot (many thanks to Drew for this correction)

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51 minutes ago, mnacenani said:

Vaziyev seems to enjoy throwing in new talent at the deep end - imho Alyona did not sink but swam both in Swan Lake and Bayaderka. Didn't Vaziyev suddenly cast Shreiner (correct ?) as the lead for Swan Lake on the London tour two years ago ??

I don't know if "throwing in" would be the exact term, Mnacenani, but it could be. It seems that she was quite capable at those times and they both knew that it would probably be ok. 

 

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33 minutes ago, mnacenani said:

Vaziyev seems to enjoy throwing in new talent at the deep end - imho Alyona did not sink but swam both in Swan Lake and Bayaderka. Didn't Vaziyev suddenly cast Shreiner (correct ?) as the lead for Swan Lake on the London tour two years ago ??

Don Quixote. It was very poorly received. I infer she has handled opportunities more successfully since then...

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15 minutes ago, Drew said:

Don Quixote. It was very poorly received. 

By whom, Drew ?

Also in regard to Alyona Kovalyova, if I recall correctly, there was a long interval between the second Swan Lake and the La Bayadere, when she seldom performed. I would guess that this was devoted to preparing for the La Bayadere. There were some secondary performances, which some here felt would be a good idea to give her a more rounded preparation for the leads.

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At least on the subject of Diamonds I feel that Alyona was ready. She performed Diamonds in NYC in front of critics who are well versed in Balachine and most called her sensational and wrote rave reviews about her performance. They even elevated her above the NYCB principals who also performed that night. 

I thought with Swan Lake, I highly enjoyed her Odette but agreed that her Odile needs more work to be more convincing! But again, that is something that comes with age. She might be too young now to fully embrace the Odile role imho. Also, yes I did see some technical mishaps such as the famous fouettes in black swan. They were not done extremely confident but passable in my opinion. I hope she works on that step quite a bit before performing next as I'm sure her great height is a challenge in fouettes. 

With La Bayadere, I quite like what she portrayed and I thought she did a good job emoting. On the subject of emotional portrayal, I do not come from a ballet background but instead from a classical music background. In my honest opinion, as long as the dancer seriously discusses with herself on the portrayal and commits I am happy. What I mean by that is, there are a thousand ways to interpret a piece or role so as long as serious effort was made to portray an appropriate emotion. 

I would love other people's thoughts on above! I am a big fan of Alyona, I generally follow more NYCB, ABT dancers since I live in America but I saw her post on some random ballet instagram and immediately had to look her up. Once I did, I fell in love with her dancing! 

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4 hours ago, balletlover08 said:

At least on the subject of Diamonds I feel that Alyona was ready. She performed Diamonds in NYC in front of critics who are well versed in Balachine and most called her sensational and wrote rave reviews about her performance. They even elevated her above the NYCB principals who also performed that night. 

I thought with Swan Lake, I highly enjoyed her Odette but agreed that her Odile needs more work to be more convincing! But again, that is something that comes with age. She might be too young now to fully embrace the Odile role imho. Also, yes I did see some technical mishaps such as the famous fouettes in black swan. They were not done extremely confident but passable in my opinion. I hope she works on that step quite a bit before performing next as I'm sure her great height is a challenge in fouettes. 

With La Bayadere, I quite like what she portrayed and I thought she did a good job emoting. On the subject of emotional portrayal, I do not come from a ballet background but instead from a classical music background. In my honest opinion, as long as the dancer seriously discusses with herself on the portrayal and commits I am happy. What I mean by that is, there are a thousand ways to interpret a piece or role so as long as serious effort was made to portray an appropriate emotion. 

I would love other people's thoughts on above! I am a big fan of Alyona, I generally follow more NYCB, ABT dancers since I live in America but I saw her post on some random ballet instagram and immediately had to look her up. Once I did, I fell in love with her dancing! 

Balletlover08 -- may I ask were you able to see these performances or are these your impressions from video or is it a mix of both? I would love to hear more from more people who have seen her dance live! And yes, she did get rave reviews from professional critics for her Diamonds in New York including Gottlieb who can be plenty harsh. (Fans on this site were more subdued in their reactions to Kovalyova's Diamonds as I recall.)

6 hours ago, Buddy said:

By whom, Drew ?

 

This was a question responding to what I said about Shrainer's Kitri debut not being well-received in London. I was referring to online discussion of the performances by fans. Fans in the UK, like fans in the US, have a lot to say about what they see.  (If you want more detail about what I'm referring to, then please send me a private message.)

I myself didn't see the performance (or video of it); I did enjoy Shrainer's Jeanne on the recent HD Flames of Paris telecast and would be happy to see her dance live should I ever get the chance. And as a matter of course I assume she is quite a different dancer today than she was in 2016.

But I fear, as a general matter, it's unrealistic to think that developing dancers without a lot of previous coryphee and Soloist experience, by giving them early opportunities in major full-length classics, won't sometimes result in fairly uneven performances that may get a lot of criticism--not simply from fans with an axe to grind or who enjoy tearing down dancers--but from serious lovers of classical ballet who don't like what they are seeing.  Especially at the Bolshoi which, after all, is supposed to be one of the world's great companies. And costs a fortune to see.

Other observers may be more forgiving or value different qualities, or prefer to watch younger, less experienced dancers or enjoy the journey etc. etc. Mileages vary. And, in fact, most fans and admirers of classical ballet DO enjoy watching dancers develop. The question for artistic directors and coaches is how to develop them most effectively.

The fact does also seem to be that some artistic directors, and not just in Russia, like to "test" and develop certain gifted young dancers in a very intense way--giving them a lot of major opportunities very fast.  Is it the best way to develop a ballerina? or the best way to develop some ballerinas (say, Kovalyova) in particular? I'm not a professional and can't pretend to make professional assessments of that kind. I do think, though, that if, for example, in the next five years Kovalyova develops into the Bolshoi's next great Odette -- and for that matter if Shrainer emerges as their next great Kitri -- then only a few people will be worrying about their debut efforts years after the fact. (Though Fraildove did make the point that fans can sometimes be very unforgiving.) In that case, Vaziev presumably will get some credit for how he pushed them forward with maybe only a very little lingering debate about whether he timed this or that debut correctly.

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Thanks, Drew, for your response.

Welcome to Ballet Alert! and this discussion ,Balletlover08. Of course I'm glad that you like Alyona as much as you do, which you might gather from reading recent (and ancient) posts at this topic. You did ask for comments about what you wrote and the one thing that I might have some reservations about is rules, especially about aesthetics -- in this case about how an artist should approach a portrayal. Thanks again for your thoughts and please keep posting.

 

 

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11 hours ago, balletlover08 said:

At least on the subject of Diamonds I feel that Alyona was ready. She performed Diamonds in NYC in front of critics who are well versed in Balachine and most called her sensational and wrote rave reviews about her performance.

С Днём Победы !  Today 9th May is Victory Day in Russia, and tonight Alyona will be dancing Diamonds with Tissi at the Historic Stage, while 1,001 fireworks light up the skies of Moscow outside. The livecast of the parade on Red Square is on now, will be followed by the "Bessmertniy Polk" remembrance march in the afternoon and by the show on Red Square and fireworks in the evening. Those who can get Kanal 1, RTR Planeta or Rossiya 24 on sat or cable can tune in. Weather fine in Moscow today and if it holds the fireworks should be quite spectacular.

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11 hours ago, balletlover08 said:

I would love other people's thoughts on above! I am a big fan of Alyona

Good to know, balletlover08 - seems now we are a threesome !  :D

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On 5/8/2018 at 8:30 PM, Buddy said:

I found this interview of Alena where she speaks about her time at the Bolshoi. I don't speak Russian but if you do it might be a nice interview to watch. Her part starts at around 37 minutes. 

 

 

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15 minutes ago, balletlover08 said:

I found this interview of Alena where she speaks about her time at the Bolshoi. I don't speak Russian but if you do it might be a nice interview to watch. Her part starts at around 37 minutes. 

Balshoye Spasiba !!   :wub::wub::wub:  

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I thank you also very much, Balletlover08. My Russian is so limited that I only understood a few words, but she does seem and look absolutely lovely.

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Intelligent looking eyes, and not a "poseuse" like some others.

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Some interview. All the insightfullness of saying that Volga flows into the Caspian sea.

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49 minutes ago, Fleurdelis said:

Some interview. All the insightfullness of saying that Volga flows into the Caspian sea.

Hmm...Just a handful of questions answered by a still very young ballerina at the beginning of her career--what would one expect? I thought the stories about how she found out she was a soloist -- and also about getting lost at the theater her first day and asking directions of someone else who turned out also to be lost were charming enough.  As for her refusing to go into more depth when asked a personal question about disappointments in love -- that seems very sensible.    

 

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Yes, terrified about being lost forever in the corridors of the Bolshoi. Riveting stuff!

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She is what...21?

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4 hours ago, Drew said:

She is what...21?

I think she is closer to 20, but even so this interview sounds too much like kindergarten chatter. If you are too young to have something substantive to tell the world, why do these interviews? The same goes for the interviewer who is asking ridiculously banal questions.

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Kovalyova and Tissi to represent the Bolshoi at the perennial "Bolshoi Ballet" TV show !  (many thanks to Gnossie for this info)

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Great news, and a good opportunity for them. Dancing is better than talking.

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I see on Instagram (Grishkoworld posted) & on the official Bolshoi website that Alyona has been promoted to first soloist & Jacopo Tissi to Leading soloist! Congrats to both ❤️ . 

I'm pretty sure Alyona has been promoted because she was a soloist last year correct?  

 

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