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9 hours ago, mnacenani said:

 Please don't write back saying her PdB is not this and that, and she has hard hands etc - don't care one bit. For me ballet is danced drama and I care about the total effect, characterisation first and foremost.

 

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Saw a brief video clip of Ekaterina Krysanova's final act.

Hands -- Lovely !

Her Pd'One -- Lovely !

She's at her Mariinsky best and I love her that way.

Now back to drama.

Glad that you enjoyed it all so much.

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On 4/25/2018 at 4:10 PM, volcanohunter said:

"...–ĺ–ī–Ĺ–į –ö–ĺ–Ņ–Ņ–Ķ–Ľ–ł—Ź". "–ź–ī–Ĺ–į" is¬†Belarusian. Just sayin'.

You are right - thanks for the correction. 

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3 hours ago, Buddy said:

She's at her Mariinsky best and I love her that way.

Regarding Kyrsanova, you must've meant her "Bolshoi" best.  

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No I'll stand by this one. I've seen her do lovely, lovely dreamlike dancing.

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1 minute ago, Buddy said:

No I'll stand by this one. I've seen her do lovely, lovely dreamlike dancingÔĽŅ.

Dreaminess may be one of the attributes of a Mariinsky ballerina, but it is not sufficient in and of itself.  Krysanova for all her virtues lacks the Vaganova epaulement that characterizes traditional Mariinsky dancers.  Many admire other Mariinsky dancers who also lack Vaganova epaulement (and there are more of them all the time), so it's not surprising there is some confusion about what a true Mariinsky dancer looks like.  

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9 hours ago, Quinten said:

 

Dreaminess may be one of the attributes of a Mariinsky ballerina, but it is not sufficient in and of itself.  Krysanova for all her virtues lacks the Vaganova epaulement that characterizes traditional Mariinsky dancers.  

She does? ¬†Then please don't tell me.¬†ūüėä

Quinten, I believe that we each have our idea about what is most important. For me, it's the effect. Mnacenani has said the same thing but  from a different emphasis. If a ballerina looks beautiful to me I don't necessarily care why. Technique is a way of producing such beauty, but for me it's only a part and I don't think that there's real agreement anyway about what the best way is. I think that I know what epaulement is and appreciate it as I see it. If you find a certain manner to be most pleasing to you then I'm glad.  

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13 hours ago, Quinten said:

 

Dreaminess may be one of the attributes of a Mariinsky ballerina, but it is not sufficient in and of itself.  Krysanova for all her virtues lacks the Vaganova epaulement that characterizes traditional Mariinsky dancers.  Many admire other Mariinsky dancers who also lack Vaganova epaulement (and there are more of them all the time), so it's not surprising there is some confusion about what a true Mariinsky dancer looks like.  

Krysanova is FAR from being a Mariinsky or Vaganova trained ballerina.  She's Bolshoi through and through... 

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14 minutes ago, MadameP said:

Krysanova is FAR from being a Mariinsky or Vaganova trained ballerina.  She's Bolshoi through and through...

Vishnyova got me hooked but Krysanova, Alexandrova, Kaptsova and now the young generation Vaziev is nurturing plus the current crop of Bolshoy male leads for whom (imho) Mariinka has no match will keep me firmly attached to the Bolshoy in this lifetime. There seems to be a different, higher energy level at Bolshoy ...... and they have a lift going up to the top floor cafe-bar .... "Gesamtkunstwerk !"  :P

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17 minutes ago, mnacenani said:

and they have a lift going up to the top floor cafe-bar .... "Gesamtkunstwerk !"  :P

And for those of us who don't drink, we have to rely totally on the performance. No problem. I've done it many times with the Bolshoi.

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4 hours ago, Quinten said:

...I say, vive la difference between the two styles.  It's not a zero sum game.

I don’t begrudge anyone their preferences, but absolutely - :shake: .

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1 hour ago, Gnossie said:

An outrage if Khokhlova gets the Coppelia broadcast (and so would be if Krysanova gets it) 

It SHOULD be Stashkevich, one of only 3 dancers (and the only one dancing it in this run) in the company who is stylistically, aesthetically, musically and technically suited to dance Swanilda. 

–ú—č —É–≤–ł–ī–ł–ľ !¬† (we shall see !)¬† ūüėČūüėČ

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23 hours ago, Gnossie said:

An outrage if Khokhlova gets the Coppelia broadcast (and so would be if Krysanova gets it) 

It SHOULD be Stashkevich, one of only 3 dancers (and the only one dancing it in this run) in the company who is stylistically, aesthetically, musically and technically suited to dance Swanilda. 

Yes to this.

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On 3/8/2018 at 7:19 AM, naomikage said:

Oh lovely! Hope your tickets are for her performance. I recognized Jane's post after I posted this.

Alexandrova and Lantratov are to perform in the World Ballet Festival in Tokyo this August, and they are also guesting in a full-length Don Quixote with Tokyo Ballet in Osaka (as a part of this festival) 

Follow up to my earlier post: I bought tickets for the ENB Sleeping Beauty in October -- I will be in London just a week during dates dictated by Mr. Drew's work schedule--and chose the Sleeping Beauty date in particular based on the fact there was no Swan Lake at the Royal Opera House that night. Well...casts have been announced and (barring untoward and unexpected events) I will be seeing Alexandrova! I know the reservations that could be expressed about her Aurora and in a British Sleeping Beauty at that--the ENB's Cojocaru is in fact my all time favorite Aurora--but I am plenty excited. I think this will be a treat.

Spitting over my shoulder to ward off the evil eye. (I keep saying there should be an emoticon for that...)

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23 minutes ago, Drew said:

. . . I bought tickets for the ENB Sleeping Beauty in October -- . . .  Well...casts have been announced and (barring untoward and unexpected events) I will be seeing Alexandrova! I know the reservations that could be expressed about her Aurora and in a British Sleeping Beauty at that--the ENB's Cojocaru is in fact my all time favorite Aurora--but I am plenty excited.

Lucky you! She'll be partnered by Aaron Robison, missed by many of us from North America. Wish I could get there, but doesn't work with my schedule.

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12 hours ago, Drew said:

Follow up to my earlier post: I bought tickets for the ENB Sleeping Beauty in October -- I will be in London just a week during dates dictated by Mr. Drew's work schedule--and chose the Sleeping Beauty date in particular based on the fact there was no Swan Lake at the Royal Opera House that night. Well...casts have been announced and (barring untoward and unexpected events) I will be seeing Alexandrova! I know the reservations that could be expressed about her Aurora and in a British Sleeping Beauty at that--the ENB's Cojocaru is in fact my all time favorite Aurora--but I am plenty excited. I think this will be a treat.

Spitting over my shoulder to ward off the evil eye. (I keep saying there should be an emoticon for that...)

I consider this production far superior to the RB's,  Cojocaru will be dancing in this version for the first time I think.  Company ballerina Erina Takahashi is an exquisite Aurora and beautiful Shiori Kase should be outstanding too.  A bit disappointed Alexandrova isn't bringing Lantratov with her though,

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"Get a room quality"?  I'd call it chemistry. makes a change from those dancers that barely acknowledge their partners.

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22 hours ago, volcanohunter said:

There is a "get a room!" quality to Alexandrova's performances with Lantratov that I think would be distracting in Sleeping Beauty. However, later this week audiences in Perm will get the opportunity to see it.

https://permopera.ru/playbills/playbill/79831/

Would love to overcome the logistics and see ballet in Perm. Osipova also guests there, danced Juliet twice last season. Will try connecting via Spb next season. Can't visualise my beloved Masha as Avrora but who knows.

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8 minutes ago, Mashinka said:

"Get a room quality"?  I'd call it chemistry. makes a change from those dancers that barely acknowledge their partners.

Re chemistry : I have high hopes for Salenko & Simkin in Berlin next season, could make up for the rest of the troupe.

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58 minutes ago, Mashinka said:

"Get a room quality"?  I'd call it chemistry. makes a change from those dancers that barely acknowledge their partners.

I've seen plenty of stage partners with chemistry. I've seen plenty of off-stage couples performing together on stage, too, and their chemistry is often more intense. But I can't recall another on-stage/off-stage couple that interpolates kisses on the mouth into the choreography. It comes across as vulgar, and not especially spontaneous, especially if they do it exactly the same way each time. Just over a week ago I saw Alexandrova and Lantratov dance the Don Q pas de deux four times, and the "chemistry" was choreographed to the millisecond: press lift, fish, come back to vertical, kiss on the mouth, I'm sorry to say it felt contrived, and it wasn't very tasteful.

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Such good news. Here Obraztsova says she has not been cast as the sylph for FOUR years! Daria Khoklova was originally scheduled to dance with hubby Belyakov so apparently Genia was selected only as a substitute. Why would they deprive audiences of this great dancer in one of her signature roles?  And I suppose we have zero chance of seeing her in next years' screening of La Sylphide and about 100 percent chance of seeing Shrainer in that role. Vaziev, c'mon! 

 

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The translation of the original Russian text is imprecise. A more precise translation would be: "It has been four years that I haven't danced La Sylphide, it's just the way it happened, and now, unexpectedly for myself she is in the playbill, well, let's bring back the memories of how wonderful it is to perform the child of the air on the 18th of May on the New stage of the Bolshoy theater".

Doesn't look like she is complaining about not having been cast before by the management.

But otherwise it is a valid point: she is arguably the best Sylph of our times and one of the best in history, in the various incarnations of this ballet. Lacotte certainly knows a talent when he sees one, and Bournonville would have undoubtedly seen it too.

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9 hours ago, Fleurdelis said:

The translation of the original Russian text is imprecise. A more precise translation would be: "It has been four years that I haven't danced La Sylphide, it's just the way it happened, and now, unexpectedly for myself she is in the playbill, well, let's bring back the memories of how wonderful it is to perform the child of the air on the 18th of May on the New stage of the Bolshoy theater".

Doesn't look like she is complaining about not having been cast before by the management.

But otherwise it is a valid point: she is arguably the best Sylph of our times and one of the best in history, in the various incarnations of this ballet. Lacotte certainly knows a talent when he sees one, and Bournonville would have undoubtedly seen it too.

Thank you for the better translation.  Obraztsova is unfailingly gracious and takes pains not to reproach Bolshoi for neglecting her.  However, I don't think she would have mentioned the 4 years if she felt totally ok about it.  

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I don't think Vaziev has much say in terms of the repertoire decisions. His hands are tied in several departments, even some of the casting decisions are not his. He is fully aware, and I don't think he is happy, that the company dances so little classic, while the company has more than enough capable dancers, who should be dancing classics, who want to dance classics, and who are denied or have very little opportunity to do that. Just look at what has been going on through this season, for example. So, what is happening at Bolshoi right now, in terms of the repertoire, is, unfortunately, and against intentions articulated by Vaziev, yet another example of wasting talent, and there are very few left now anywhere in the world, capable of doing demanding classics well. The main, if not sole reason why so many of those gala "stars" prefer performing uninspiring modern pieces is precisely this: it is so much easier, while in demanding classics some of the "stars" risk embarrassing themselves, and who is to blame them, if this is not what they are rehearsing throughout the season. Concerning Pagliero, she may not be French, but she is by far the best artist at the moment, a true ballet artist, and not just in Paris.

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Child of the air?

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