cubanmiamiboy Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 I was recently watching this clip of Osipova and Vasiliev in the Bolshoi's Corsaire, and was very surprised to notice that the role of the slave-(or Ali during Soviet times)-is gone, at least from this particular clip. Does anybody knows if they suppressed it all together..? I know that this secondary role in the Pas de Trois was very enhanced by Chabukiani, even gaining a name, and eventually took over the whole Pas, suppressing Conrad thanks to Nureyev and his contemporaries, but now that companies like ABT are back to the original trio scheme, I find surprising that he's completely gone, and the variation is danced instead by Conrad-(for what I know, Gerdt was too old to carry it on...right...?). Can someone shred some light on the subject...? Thanks in advance! Link to comment
Penelope Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 As in this scenario, do you mean? Link to comment
Andfos Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Thanks for this excellent information. You might like to know that the critic Pleshcheev was watching this Karsavina/Andrianov performance on 15/1/1915, and he wrote: "There was much that was excellent about her [Karsavina], particularly in the pas d'action, which the ballerina danced with Mr. Andrianov, creator of this dance, and Mr. Obukhov, but everything bore the nature of flashes of brilliance alternating with shortcomings. The ballet had a new Conrad - Mr. Andrianov - and did not gain from this. Mr. Andrianov has not yet mastered the role." The Obukhov on the programme would have been Anatoli rather than Mikhail, who had died back in September 1914. Link to comment
Marta Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 While thinking about the Bolshoi's Le Corsaire in cinema coming in a few days, I've been wondering of Ratmansky's elimination of Ali means we do not see the famous Le Corsaire PdD? Or is it danced by the main characters? Link to comment
volcanohunter Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 It's danced by Medora and Conrad. Strictly speaking the pas de deux shouldn't be in a reconstruction of Petipa's version at all, as Amy explained above, but no doubt Ratmansky and Burlaka understood that the audience wouldn't accept a production without it. Link to comment
Marta Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Thanks! Ratmansky is right. I'm thinking Conrad is probably not dancing topless or wearing a plumed headpiece. Link to comment
volcanohunter Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 No baggy pants, no bare chests, and no bare midriffs either. It's great. Some feathers, but not worn by any of the Greek men. Lots of hair extensions, though. When I visited the Benaki Museum in Athens, I was struck by how much Conrad resembled Athanasios Diakos. Link to comment
Drew Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) Great image! Here is Byron (whose poem "The Corsaire" is, however tenuously, the ballet's source) in the Albanian dress he had made when traveling in Albania (areas that are now Northern Greece) and visiting Ali Pasha-- Edited October 19, 2017 by Drew Link to comment
Marta Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Thanks for this image, volcanohunter. The hairstyles in Bolshoi's version of Corsaire were very similar! I enjoyed seeing Le Corsaire, especially Krysanova and Lopatin who were both wonderful. But I never want to see this ballet again! Link to comment
mnacenani Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Marta said: The hairstyles in Bolshoi's version of Corsaire were very similar! I enjoyed seeing Le Corsaire, especially Krysanova and Lopatin who were both wonderful. But I never want to see this ballet again! Yesterday at the second interval of the livecast Corsaire Novikova was speaking with (I presume) Zaytseva (decor&costume) and she spoke at length about how carefully they researched for costume design and to create the bazaar scene in the first act as truthfully as possible not only designed on ethnic lines ie Greek, Turkish, Albanian etc but also tried to reproduce the different dress styles of the different Greek islands - I was quite impresssed. Re Corsaire : also not my favourite ballet, but want to see it once more at Mariinsky this season, to refresh my memory of their presentation of the Jardin Animé which is different from Ratmansky's. And imho the version with Ali works for this ballet, although normally I am dead against classics being tampered with. I think this role enhances and rounds off the "story". Edited October 23, 2017 by mnacenani Link to comment
Marta Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Mnacenani, Zaytseva's work was quite impressive and the interview was informative. The Bolshoi is very well endowed to be able to mount such lavish productions. I have seen Mariinsky's production of Corsaire around 2002 in N.Y. but I don't remember the Jardin Animé scene. I did watch Tereshkina & Yermakov on youtube dancing the PdD and they were fabulous. The thought of seeing both Zakharova and Krysanova dancing within one 24 hour period truly elicits both awe and envy! Link to comment
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