innopac Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 In Danilova's memoir she said that Myrtha's role was more substantial, when she was in Russia, than it is today. . . that originally the role was danced by a ballerina and now it is danced by a soloist. (page 147 of Choura) Is this correct? Link to comment
Mel Johnson Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 For heaven's sake, I've seen this happening IN MY LIFETIME. And she's borne out by the history of the whole ballet, too. Adele Dumilatre was just as big a deal in Paris as Grisi was, and the role was considered, and in some circles still is, a heavyweight requiring a totally dominating dancer. Link to comment
Alexandra Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 I agree. It still is in Paris and St. Petersburg (not sure about Moscow), but elsewhere it's often the tallest corps girl or young soloist, a "junior" role (tall being the substitute for authority). It's definitely a ballerina role, and great ballerinas have danced it. Link to comment
bart Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Does anyone have an idea as to why this change occurred? A very imperfect analogy from opera comes to mind: Aida and Amneris. But Amneris remains a great role, and a great Amneris (Zajick currently) can leave you more wrung out than many Aidas. Link to comment
Amy Reusch Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Funny you should mention this just now... I've been considering the beautiful Igone de Jongh's portrayal of Myrtha as seen on the Dutch National Ballet's promotional clips on youtube.... a Myrtha who didn't take to being victimized lightly... so much more interesting! & Link to comment
Helene Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Verdi wanted to name the opera "Amneris", not "Aida". I wonder if Myrtha's demotion coincides with Albrecht's promotion over the years. Link to comment
sandik Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 We're getting Giselle here next year and I'm almost having more fun speculating about who will dance Myrtha than who will dance the title role. Link to comment
leonid17 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 I agree. It still is in Paris and St. Petersburg (not sure about Moscow), but elsewhere it's often the tallest corps girl or young soloist, a "junior" role (tall being the substitute for authority). It's definitely a ballerina role, and great ballerinas have danced it. It certainly has to be a dancer with authority otherwise the role is lost. Deanne Bergsma, not a conventional ballerina, but a wonderful Myrtha, not only became an equal in performances with Fonteyn and Nureyev she remains for me an exemplar of the role. Yes Bergsma was tall, but her authority came from the fact that she understood the role and convinced in every way, establishing her otherworldly nature with incredibly floatingly smooth pas de bourrée and dramatically only capitulating to the power of love, when Giselle and Loys seek the protection of the cross. Ballerina's Olga Preobrazhenskaya and Lyubov Yegorova both essayed Myrtha successfully and they were both fairly small. Link to comment
atm711 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 In Danilova's memoir she said that Myrtha's role was more substantial, when she was in Russia, than it is today. . . that originally the role was danced by a ballerina and now it is danced by a soloist. (page 147 of Choura)Is this correct? Yes, one of my pet ballet 'peeves'. Danilova was certainly authoritative in the role. From the time of my very first Giselle I assumed it was a ballerina role. Rosella Hightower was the ballerina---and in those days dancers were not listed alphabetically--her name was above the title of the Company. At the time, Marjorie Tallchief and Diana Adams alternated with her in the role---and it was very easy to see the difference. Link to comment
cubanmiamiboy Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 It's very exciting to see two strong Primas in their quest for a night's most talked about performance. Yes, I've seen Myrthas outcasting some Giselles, and I guess this should be devastating for the title role. But I still like a Principal to dance it, regardless the possible danger to her peer. Link to comment
Alexandra Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 I've seen small Myrthas who were excellent, authoritative and terrifying -- Mette-Ida Kirk in Denmark, about 5 feet tall, was one. I think the reason is that many directors don't understand the role and/or give in to dancers' demands ("I am a BALLERINA and I demand to dance only ballerina roles") and/or think that "tall" and "authoritative" are synonyms. If they explained to the uppity ballerinas that Myrtha IS a starring role, it might work. Link to comment
Helene Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Or if they'd cast a shorter ballerina who has authority. Link to comment
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