Andre Yew Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Finally! Opus Arte are releasing a DVD of the Cojocaru/Kobborg Giselle: http://www.opusarte.com/pages/comingsoon.asp?offset=5 IMHO, it's one of the greatest modern Giselles. Now if only they'd release it on an HD format. Jewels is also listed as being released for BluRay. Hopefully, it won't have the blurry movement of the DVD. --Andre Link to comment
volcanohunter Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Splendid news indeed. If it's going to hit the shops in the UK on September 1, it should certainly be in North America by Christmas. The ballet will be screened at Canadian movie theatres on November 1, and I'm very much looking forward to it. If Opus Arte intends to release new ballet DVDs every month or two, it's very good news for us all. Romeo and Juliet should be next. A question to those familiar with the production: Does this version replace the peasant pas de deux with a pas de quatre? Peter Wright's production for the National Ballet of Canada does and I can't stand it. Link to comment
cubanmiamiboy Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 well...add 8 more dancers-(four couples plus two aditional girls)- and you'll get Mme. Alonso's-(beautiful for me)-Peasant Pas de Dix! Link to comment
annamicro Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Does this version replace the peasant pas de deux with a pas de quatre? It's a pas de six with a main couple (Morera-Cervera in the film). Link to comment
volcanohunter Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Oh, why can't producers leave well enough alone? I realize that the Burgmuller pas de deux was a last-minute addition, but as it happens I think its performers make a very effective foil to Giselle and Albrecht and their doomed romance. Add two, four or eight more dancers to the mix, and this contrast is lost; it becomes just another divertissement. [edited to add:] Though I should clarify that as long as there's a lead couple, I'm okay with other dancers acting as a mini corps. My objection to Wright's pas de quatre is that he takes choreography intended for two dancers and redistributes it among four. The original may be a double-decker pas de deux, but surely a fit male soloist can handle two variations if there's a variation for his partner in between. Link to comment
volcanohunter Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 The DVD is available for pre-order on British Amazon, so keep the product number for future reference. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Adam-Giselle-Cojoc...n/dp/B001E08TDA I'm torn: to shell out the extra pounds or to wait two months for the American release... Link to comment
Charming_Lise Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Just to let everyone know the U.K release date for Giselle is the 1st of September. Jamila Mendes Link to comment
aurora Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 A tiny clip is up on youtube (from opusarte) Link to comment
volcanohunter Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 According to Amazon.com, the American release date is October 28. Link to comment
James Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Has somebody seen that already ? Any comments ? Link to comment
garybruce Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Has anyone on BT seen the new DVD? Link to comment
4mrdncr Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Yes I saw it. It's okay, after only one quick viewing. I noticed some differences in choreography--not always for the better. No major complaints re the dancers, except the phrasing at times bothered me. (But I tend to be more acutely observant of that in Giselle.) One of the supported hops in Act II stuttered slightly, or was it just a sticky floor? Overall: Good, but I have seen better. IMHO: a "mixed" review. I'll write more, when I've had chance to see it more. Link to comment
Nanarina Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Hello Everyone I have been rather busy lately, but still found time to watch my new DVD of Giselle, yes the Royal Ballet with Alina Cojocaru and Johann Kobborg. It is really great, Alina is magnificent in it, and Johann excels with his Royal Danish Ballet technique. I agree very strongly with the people who think this version is the best. No doubt something to do with Monica Masons and Sir Peter Wright's imput, as she herself made a wonderful Martha. The music and orchestra seem to be on top form, I loved the rustic coloured costumes and scenery in Act 1, moving on to the second act, I have always favoured this best myself, the music seems even better, and the choreography is out of this world. Some one I cannot fail to mention is Sandra Conley, who played Bertha, Giselle's Mother. Over the years she has gradually taken over from Gerd Larsen as the Senior Female Character Actress, and I feel her performances quite over shadow the former person by far. I knew Sandy as she was affectionately known, from when she was in the Corp de ballet of the touring company. Her husband Adrian Grater was also a very talented artist, and if by chance he ever reads this, I would like to mention, the well known mints with the hole, which he was rather addicted to !! Let me just say POLO. (Sorry slightly off topic!"! Back to the new issue DVD This is in fact recorded in HD and with surround sound. You do not need a HD DVD player, as it will play on an ordinary player. However if you have a large screen (or ordinary) TV, if your set has surround sound free standing speekers, and is classed as HD ready, you will benefit from excellent reproduction of this ballet DVD. Finaly going back to the cast, there was one dancer that stood out to me in the Peasant pas de cinq, she was the main soloist called Laura Morera someone to watch I think, very musical and lyrical, and a talent for the future no doubt. Link to comment
canbelto Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I liked the dvd very much but I disagree about Peter Wright's production. I thought it was overly fussy in the first act and cramped the already small Royal Ballet stage. I also didn't like the fact that Giselle was wearing such a dowdy brown dress. I'm one of those people who likes Giselle to be kind of dolled up in the first act. Not glamorous, but definitely wearing her prettiest dress for Albrecht's sake. I thought Cojocaru was exquisite though. Link to comment
carbro Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I also didn't like the fact that Giselle was wearing such a dowdy brown dress. I'm one of those people who likes Giselle to be kind of dolled up in the first act. Not glamorous, but definitely wearing her prettiest dress for Albrecht's sake.Really? I like the fact that RB's Giselle is dressed similarly to the other female villagers. It always looks strange to me to see the company dressed in muted colors and Giselle conspicuously from a different palette. She was a peasant, and peasants saved their special clothes for special occasions. If an audience needs a brightly colored costume to tell us who the ballerina is, then we probably have the wrong person in the role. Link to comment
volcanohunter Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I'd rank the DVD in the good but not great category. Among the strengths I'd include Marianela Nuñez as Myrtha, who makes up for lack of physical stature with ferocious dancing, and Cojocaru in Act 2, though she lacks a little stamina, cutting off sequences where other ballerinas keep going for another bar or two. In the first act I think she lacks the simplicity to make a convincing peasant girl. Among the demerits I'd list Wright's production, which I've always disliked (so I'll admit to bias); Kobborg's lack of height (which may sound like a petty criticism, but in my defense I'll say that when I took my mother to see this production at the cinema, she couldn't even look at him because his appearance reminded her of Shrek--her words, not mine!; her verdict was that she would've chosen Martin Harvey's Hilarion, no contest); and Genesia Rosato, who is simply too old to play Bathilde on television: her interaction with Albrecht came off exactly like Siegfried's scenes with his mother. The corps is not as good as the POB's, and what Wright does with the peasant pas de deux is an abomination (though I like Ricardo Cervera). If I'm willing to give this DVD four stars out of five, it's on the strength of Cojocaru and Nuñez in Act 2. Otherwise I'd give it three stars. Link to comment
leonid17 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I'd rank the DVD in the good but not great category. Among the strengths I'd include Marianela Nuñez as Myrtha, who makes up for lack of physical stature with ferocious dancing, and Cojocaru in Act 2, though she lacks a little stamina, cutting off sequences where other ballerinas keep going for another bar or two. In the first act I think she lacks the simplicity to make a convincing peasant girl.Among the demerits I'd list Wright's production, which I've always disliked (so I'll admit to bias); Kobborg's lack of height (which may sound like a petty criticism, but in my defense I'll say that when I took my mother to see this production at the cinema, she couldn't even look at him because his appearance reminded her of Shrek--her words, not mine!; her verdict was that she would've chosen Martin Harvey's Hilarion, no contest); and Genesia Rosato, who is simply too old to play Bathilde on television: her interaction with Albrecht came off exactly like Siegfried's scenes with his mother. The corps is not as good as the POB's, and what Wright does with the peasant pas de deux is an abomination (though I like Ricardo Cervera). If I'm willing to give this DVD four stars out of five, it's on the strength of Cojocaru and Nuñez in Act 2. Otherwise I'd give it three stars. I am glad you enjoyed the performance which I did attend. I agree with you about this Peter Wright production and although his earlier production for the Royal Ballet Touring Company was a much grander production, with huge Wolfhounds making the act 1 a dramatic spectacle, I personally prefer productions that follow what was first seen in London with the Diaghilev Ballet. I would say that Kobborg is around 5'8" or slightly taller in height and not short for a leading ballet dancer if you think of other famous dancers. I do not believe that there is a pre-requisite for Albrecht to be stunningly handsome and Kobborg is a serious actor on stage with great subtlety of expression shown in a good number of other roles. Interestingly last week I was standing no more than four feet away from him watching RB company class and was surprised how pleasant and youthful looking he is off-stage. I admire Cojocaru in almost everything she performs. This does not mean she is perfect in every thing she dances. Nunez is shortish, but then Myrtha, like Giselle, Nikiya, Odette-Odile, Aurora, Kitri, Aspicia, Medora etc etc was never meant to be danced by anyone more than 5'2 in height. Taller dancers can never give the shape and meaning to the steps that choreographers intended or for some dancers, the impossibility to perform at the correct tempi. For me, it is always good to have a filmed version of a ballet and although it may give a very good idea of what a performance was like, a film will always remain a long way away from the visual, aural, physical/psychological experience of a live performance when so many things contribute and pass by, but are essential the a whole experience, rather than in the detached and somewhat cold experience of watching a film when one has the opportunity to analyse in a way different to the theatrical experience. Link to comment
Jane Simpson Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Though I've never actually watched this video, I was at the performance which was filmed, and I remember being rather disappointed with Cojocaru - I've seen her do better Giselles. I wondered at the time how much she was put off by the constraints of the filming - remembering where the cameras were and when to look at them etc. I do agree with Leonid about Kobborg's acting (except occasionally I think he overdoes it a bit) and at this performance particularly I thought he was very,very good during the mad scene. As for the heights of the other characters, I think that when you're starting with a Giselle who - at her own estimate - is slightly under 5'2", a 6' Albrecht and a 5'8" Myrtha would look badly out of proportion. (Though I don't personally think of Nunez as 'shortish' - not in RB terms, anyway.) Link to comment
volcanohunter Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I would say that Kobborg is around 5'8" or slightly taller in height and not short for a leading ballet dancer if you think of other famous dancers. Perhaps I should have been more specific and described him as short-legged rather than short, because I do find his body proportions distracting in the classics. As for the heights of the other characters, I think that when you're starting with a Giselle who - at her own estimate - is slightly under 5'2", a 6' Albrecht and a 5'8" Myrtha would look badly out of proportion. This is not unlike the casting on the POB's DVD, bearing in mind that Laëtitia Pujol is probably a bit taller than Cojocaru, and Marie-Agnès Gillot is a good deal taller than 5'8", and I can't say that it looked badly out of proportion. Mind you, I wouldn't want to see Pujol and Le Riche together in Sleeping Beauty or Swan Lake. Link to comment
Jane Simpson Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 This is not unlike the casting on the POB's DVD, bearing in mind that Laëtitia Pujol is probably a bit taller than Cojocaru, and Marie-Agnès Gillot is a good deal taller than 5'8", and I can't say that it looked badly out of proportion. It's just a matter of personal taste, I guess, like so much else. Link to comment
drb Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Though I've never actually watched this video, I was at the performance which was filmed, and I remember being rather disappointed with Cojocaru - I've seen her do better Giselles.... Back in April on his site, Mr. Kobborg mentioned that he and Ms. Cojocaru had just filmed another dvd of Giselle in Spain. He has made no further posts since then. Any news about this new Giselle? Link to comment
GoCoyote! Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 ....... Finaly going back to the cast, there was one dancer that stood out to me in the Peasant pas de cinq, she was the main soloist called Laura Morera someone to watch I think, very musical and lyrical, and a talent for the future no doubt. She's recently been made a principal. Link to comment
canbelto Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I thought one thing Cojocaru needs to improve on are her "Wili turns." When Giselle is first initiated as a Wili I always watch the turns. I like Giselles to turn like demons. To see how it's done, watch Natalia Makarova. Link to comment
Andre Yew Posted November 25, 2008 Author Share Posted November 25, 2008 The thing I love most about this Giselle, and I miss in almost every performance I've seen is the connection between Cojocaru and Kobborg. It makes their act 2 pas very human and warm. The thing that always gets me is when and how she makes eye contact with him, and how that's so seamlessly integrated into the choreography. By comparison, every other Giselle I've seen seems cold in comparison. --Andre Link to comment
volcanohunter Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Well, here's a shock. The ballet will be shown on British Columbia's Knowledge Network on Wednesday, February 3 at 9:00 p.m. PT, with a repeat at 1:00 a.m. the following morning. If this is a pledge-drive move on the part of Knowledge Network, I may actually take the bait and donate, if only to encourage them to show more ballet. http://www.knowledgenetwork.ca/program/giselle Link to comment
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