Klavier Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 I thought my computer monitor had lost color. But no, it looks as though www.nycballet.com has undergone a facelift - not to take away the grey, as some of us would like to do to our aging hair, but to add more of it. Despite the difficulty of navigation and (my continual pet peeve) the inability to make individual seat selections, the site at least used to look good. Now it's this ugly black-and-white thingy. What were they thinking? Link to comment
kfw Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 I find the black and white is refreshing. I only wish they'd hire a professional writer. Link to comment
Klavier Posted January 3, 2008 Author Share Posted January 3, 2008 I find the black and white is refreshing. I only wish they'd hire a professional writer. Well, to each his or her own. But I write for a living and would be happy to serve, so long as the compensation was attractive. At least under my watch you wouldn't encounter bizarrely structured sentences like this one: "In January 2005, Mr. Ulbricht was promoted to the rank of soloist and principal dancer in May 2007." Link to comment
carbro Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 I find the black and white almost painful to the eyes and not at all beckoning. When the musical snippet you get on the home page is Brahms or Tchaikovsky or some other lush Romantic, there's a jarring clash of sensibilities. Link to comment
bart Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 A number of the individual photos are well-done and really quite refreshing. The over-all look, however, does not work for me. And it's not appropriate for every ballet. Even The Nutcracker is in grey and white! (And the link to "More NYCB History," found on the Nutcracker page, does not work.) http://www.nycballet.com/nutcracker/nutcracker.html Link to comment
sz Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Agreeing with Bart... And just wait until you see the overall look of these photos, in large poster-size, at the State Theater. The dancers look so cold and plastic, IMO. Link to comment
kfw Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 When the musical snippet you get on the home page is Brahms or Tchaikovsky or some other lush Romantic, there's a jarring clash of sensibilities. I see your point there, but I don't experience it that way and, anyhow, I turned the speakers off when the music began, just as I try to tune out the video when I buy tickets in the lobby at the State Theater. Both decisions are of a piece with my preference for black and white over color here. When I used to go to a lot of rock concerts, I didn't want to hear the bands' music over the loudspeakers before the show. In the same way, if the photos were really remarkable or revealing I might like the color, but too many little color photos and larger cut out shots of familiar material tire my eye and diminish the magic. The black and white, on the other hand, strikes me as elegant. While I wait for the chance to see another performance, less is more. But it's interesting to me that some of the most experienced viewers here feel differently, and if I was a newcomer to the ballet and just a casual fan I'd probably feel differently myself. Link to comment
drb Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Has anyone noticed that the site also dumped that old-fashioned Balanchine Lyre as its logo? The new logo is a magnificent evocation of the choreography of The Ballet Master in Chief. You would have thought R + J would have retained its +, thus evoking Edward Gorey..., but not, at least, on the home page. Link to comment
justafan Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Has anyone noticed that the site also dumped that old-fashioned Balanchine Lyre as its logo? The new logo is a magnificent evocation of the choreography of The Ballet Master in Chief.You would have thought R + J would have retained its +, thus evoking Edward Gorey..., but not, at least, on the home page. Yes, what's with that? I believe I recently saw a reference somewhere to the lyre being the "former NYCB logo." Horrors! And in favor of what -- bland type? I also don't like the black and white design of the site but just assumed it was a change and would be quite short-lived. It's too austere. Ballet needs to convey life and lushness. Link to comment
Hans Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Out of curiosity, since I couldn't find anything resembling a logo on the homepage, what is NYCB's new logo? Link to comment
kfw Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Has anyone noticed that the site also dumped that old-fashioned Balanchine Lyre as its logo? The new logo is a magnificent evocation of the choreography of The Ballet Master in Chief.You would have thought R + J would have retained its +, thus evoking Edward Gorey..., but not, at least, on the home page. Yes, what's with that? I believe I recently saw a reference somewhere to the lyre being the "former NYCB logo." The lyre has it own page but it's barely visible there. The page's opening sentence is ambiguous: The lyre, in a number of different forms, has served as the official symbol of New York City Ballet. Link to comment
richard53dog Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 The b&w shots on the website don't work for me. I think the scale is too small , the photos only take up a relatively small portion of the screen. They end up looking like old snapshots , but ones that aren't that interesting. Link to comment
DeborahB Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 I thought my computer monitor had lost color. But no, it looks as though www.nycballet.com has undergone a facelift - not to take away the grey, as some of us would like to do to our aging hair, but to add more of it. Despite the difficulty of navigation and (my continual pet peeve) the inability to make individual seat selections, the site at least used to look good. Now it's this ugly black-and-white thingy. What were they thinking? Sorry, I disagree. The black and white photograph on the website is gorgeous. It's even more beautiful (stunning really) at the NY State Theatre. But to each his own (of course!). Link to comment
papeetepatrick Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 I like the black-and-white well enough, but think 'THE SOLD-OUT SENSATION RETURNS' is hilarious, and also amusing is 'BALANCHINE'S GLITTERING, FULL-LENGTH AUDIENCE FAVORITE'. Sort of 'hard-sell, yet uncommonly exclusive.' Link to comment
carbro Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Out of curiosity, since I couldn't find anything resembling a logo on the homepage, what is NYCB's new logo?The closest thing I could find to a logo is the black square in the top-right corner that says BUY TICKETS consistent with 'THE SOLD-OUT SENSATION RETURNS' and 'BALANCHINE'S GLITTERING, FULL-LENGTH AUDIENCE FAVORITE' Link to comment
Anthony_NYC Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 I find the black and white is refreshing. I only wish they'd hire a professional writer. Ah, but that would take all the color out of the writing, too. How can you resist rushing to the box office when you read: "Nothing so opened the American mind or forged our national character as did the exploration of the American frontier. Western Symphony is a bonanza of frisky fillies and lonesome cowpokes whose rousing, non-stop finale brings the curtain down." Link to comment
Klavier Posted January 4, 2008 Author Share Posted January 4, 2008 I find the black and white is refreshing. I only wish they'd hire a professional writer. Ah, but that would take all the color out of the writing, too. How can you resist rushing to the box office when you read: "Nothing so opened the American mind or forged our national character as did the exploration of the American frontier. Western Symphony is a bonanza of frisky fillies and lonesome cowpokes whose rousing, non-stop finale brings the curtain down." Quite right. I couldn't come with something like that in a zillion years. Link to comment
ViolinConcerto Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 Well, like the "+" in "Romeo AND Juliet," NYCB seems to be trying to take on a newer, more modern (or contemporary) visual formula. I think the photography is beautiful, but the site is boring visually. I also noted with interest that many of the large photos show a "black + white" couple. I have always loved the fact that this company has that mix and uses it (following Mr. B's lead), but wonder if this is being done just to be visually consistent. I smell an attempt to reach younger people, and take on a new look. It's necessary to do, but what is the best approach? Link to comment
papeetepatrick Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 Well, like the "+" in "Romeo AND Juliet," Thanks for pointing that out, ViolinConcerto. I quite dislike the use of a '+' there. Romeo & Juliet can hardly offend viewers who are going to see bodies instead of screens. What will web designers start using next, in their quest to be ever more nerdy-chic? Link to comment
kfw Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 I quite dislike the use of a '+' there. Romeo & Juliet can hardly offend viewers who are going to see bodies instead of screens. I don't like the "+" either, but I suppose it's intended to attract the same young people who might go see "NEWYORKCITYBALLET." Now which was it that wrote that "For George Balanchine, it was always the Company rather than the individual dancers who was the star at New York City Ballet"? Link to comment
pugbee Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 The black and white theme doesn't thrill me -- but I do love that NYCB makes a regular effort to update their site. I wish some of the other major companies would pay their websites as much attention. Link to comment
jimmattimore Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 I LOVE the black and white photos; they have a wonderful elegance. JIM Link to comment
printscess Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 I LOVE the black and white photos; they have a wonderful elegance.JIM I love the b&W photos as an ad campaign but the B&W makes the website look dreary. Link to comment
carbro Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Video! At long last VIDEO! :blush: The "Program Previews" seem to be same micro-documentaries we've seen of late in the lobby. Link to comment
papeetepatrick Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Video! At long last VIDEO! :blush:The "Program Previews" seem to be same micro-documentaries we've seen of late in the lobby. Thanks for mentioning it, I enjoyed pretty well the clip of Romeo Plus Juliet, but wouldn't run to see it. Sharp-looking, but not quite romantic. It looked more sparse and small than I want to see this. I wasn't very interested in Peter Martins philosophy about getting the teenagers to do the parts, although they're nicer-looking. I don't mind if Margot Fonteyn did it perfectly and was oldish. Link to comment
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