Joseph Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 What do you think? I am not talking about a twenty/thirty minute condensed version for children. I was thinking about an evening length, adult and children appropraite version. What does everyone think? I would base it more off of the original story (not tooo gross.) But, I would have a big emphasis on the evil queen. Music ideas, etc. are much appreciated!!! I already know about Bruce Wells' version for BBII and PNB; but I want to do either a three or two act ballet for it. Maybe I am nuts ??? Link to comment
Hans Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 I think it would work. Would you have children play the dwarves? Link to comment
rg Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 as you may or may not recall, petipa's final and disastrous production was THE MAGIC MIRROR based on SNOW WHITE, which doesn't mean the idea is undoable, just that russian ballet's old man of the art didn't bring off his try. true there seems to have been a good deal of intrigue working against marius p. at this time in his legendary career. there are isoloated photos of the production around in books and of the settings, by korovin, which apparently petipa believed sabotaged his intentions. gorsky subsequently did his own re-vision in moscow but it seems to have had only a short shelf life. paul taylor's SNOW WHITE is a riff on the disney and is rather amusing, for a one-act modern-dance take. Link to comment
Joseph Posted August 8, 2005 Author Share Posted August 8, 2005 Hey rg! Yes, I read an article about this ballet "Magic Mirror" in a magazine a couple of years ago or so; I may have to have a score commissioned... I have also heard of Paul Taylor's version - mine would really try to be a semi-classical production (in pointe shoes etc.) Hey Hans!- I think I would probably use the shortest guys in my company and maybe even some girls for the dwarfes? hmmmmmm (of course this is all just a fantasy for me; i do not actually have a company, but hope to someday!) Link to comment
rg Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 kirov productions of prokofiev's CINDERELLA have traditionally used children for the 12 dwarves that come out of the clock to strike the hour of midnight. paul taylor calls his contingent of dwarves 'some dwarves' b/c he didn't have 7 likely candidates when he made his cynical version focussing on snow white's vanity, etc. Link to comment
Hans Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Snow White's vanity? What twisted version did Paul Taylor's parents tell him growing up? Joseph I think that sounds like a good idea--you can do much more interesting things choreographically with short men than you can with children, and you could have Snow White played by a tall dancer, so that plus the added height of pointe shoes could give the illusion that the "dwarves" are even shorter than they really are. Link to comment
carbro Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 I didn't get that vanity was a major point of the Taylor work. Snow White was, for a heroine, somewhat passive, as I recall. Now the Poison Apple, on the other hand, was pretty central. There were five dwarves (including, in the original cast, the majestically built David Parsons), and they all spent the whole ballet dancing in squatting position. Ouch! Of course, casting is easy if you have Cathy McCann on hand, who really did resemble Disney's conception of Snow White. Link to comment
rg Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 perhaps i'm confusing snow white's vanity w/ the prince's smugness? someone keeps looking at him or herself in a hand mirror i seem to recall. i do think however that whatever else she's like, snow white fails to look back with much gratitude on the dwarves after she's spirited away by her prince, leaving the poor fellows bereft. or maybe i'm misremembering things. i need to consult the DANCE IN AMERICA tape i suppose. Link to comment
Estelle Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 I'd have to check it, but I think Lifar choreographed a version of "Snow white". Link to comment
Joseph Posted August 8, 2005 Author Share Posted August 8, 2005 Yeah, Hans - I think that is a good point to have her be taller so that the dwarfs look shorter. Hmmm... Who would make a good Snow White? Estelle- It would be great to see any information you know of, on Lifar's version (if there is one) Link to comment
brivagook Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 (edited) Several years ago, the Alabama Ballet did a full length version of this ballet. I was in attendance, although my memories of it are foggy. It think it had to have been sometime around 1993. This was staged when Sonia Arova and Thor Sutowski were still directing the company. I can't speak of the production's artistic success, as I was a child and was not watching with a critical eye. However I do happen to remember that the dwarves were played by short company dancers! Edited August 9, 2005 by brivagook Link to comment
Joseph Posted August 9, 2005 Author Share Posted August 9, 2005 Thanks Brivagook for that info! Link to comment
carbro Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 Hmmm... Who would make a good Snow White? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Veronika Part. She has that dark hair, a magnificent face, she's tall, and oh, what a dancer! http://abt.org/gallery/detail1.asp?Image_ID=725 Link to comment
Estelle Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 Estelle- It would be great to see any information you know of, on Lifar's version (if there is one) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Here's what I have found (in Jacques Baril's "Dictionnaire de danse", published in 1964): Lifar's "Blanche-neige" was a three act ballet premiered in Nov 14, 1951 in Paris. The music was by M. Yvain, the sets by D. Bouchène, and the main dancers of the première were Liane Daydé, Nina Vyroubova, Serge Lifar, Max Bozzoni and Jean-Paul Andréani. Koegler's book also lists a Russian version choreographed by A. Andreiev and B. Fenster as "The princess and the seven knights", based on Pushkin's story, with music by Liadov, for the Maly Theatre, Leningrad, in 1949. Link to comment
Mashinka Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 In the Baron at the Ballet series of books that were published in the '50's you can find fabulous pictures of the Paris Opera Ballet including a set of photos of Lifar's "Blanche-neige". Link to comment
tango49 Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 Joseph...There is a small company here in Orlando "Ballet Fedotov" (also known as Orlando City Ballet) that has recently done Snow White. It is a Full-length Ballet in Two Acts with music by a composer named Z. Pavlovsky. They also used some music from Offenbach and J Strauss. The Evil Queen had a major role and there were several scenes with her and her cohors or Ladies in Waiting. The hunter also had an interesting role showing himself first as a very strong figure but succumbing to Snow White's beauty during a pas de deux in the forest and eventually being unable to kill her. Very touching. The dwarfs were played by children because of a shortage of men. This kept the ballet on the 'lighter' side! I must say that the music which seemed to fit perfectly and Vadim Fedotov's choreography made this a very enjoyable ballet! Link to comment
Joseph Posted August 9, 2005 Author Share Posted August 9, 2005 Hi Tango49! Thanks so much; I will look into this ballet company. Do they have a website? The only companies I know of in Orlando are Orlando Ballet Theater and Central Florida Ballet. I actually choreographed a pas de deux for Central Florida Ballet with dancers from Boston Ballet in August of 2002. Link to comment
tango49 Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 Joseph...Thanks Hans for posting the website! I just wanted to add that Orlando City Ballet is a pre-professional company whereas Ballet Fedotov is a professional one. I know it's abit confusing! Actually Vadim Fedotov recently was appointed AD of OCB after the untimely death of Beatrice Aldana the founder. Vadim had his own studio in Orlando (Russian Academy of Ballet) and his own professional company called Ballet Fedotov which is for the most part seperate from OCB. I think you would call Ballet Fedotov a civic company as they often use dancers who are members of other companies like Sarasota Ballet. I'm very familiar with both CFB and OB as well. How interesting that you choreographed a piece there with the BB dancers. I do remember them guesting! Link to comment
Dansuer85 Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 Ballet Met will be doing 'Alice in Wonderland' this winter- ALICE IN WONDERLAND--World Premiere February 9 - 19, 2006 Capitol Theatre Choreography: Gerard Charles Music: TBD Balletmet.org Since it's standing on it's own I would think it would be more than one act, but who knows! Link to comment
Joseph Posted August 10, 2005 Author Share Posted August 10, 2005 Tango49 - Yes, it was in August of 2002. These dancers are now at Het Nationale Ballet in Amsterdamn. Actually, they were originally from there, came to Boston for about two years and then went back in 2003. Did you get to see this performance? Link to comment
Dansuer85 Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 oh wow, I' m really blind, the ballet was not about Alice in Wonderland, but Snow white! OOPS! ahah I just had my wisdom teeth out, so let us blame it on the drugs! *mods delete both post if you would like!* Link to comment
Joseph Posted August 10, 2005 Author Share Posted August 10, 2005 Any music suggestions? Link to comment
Helene Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 I'm glad Dansuer85 brought up "Alice in Wonderland," because I would choose David Del Tredici for the music. I loved his music for "Alice," and I think if he did "Snow White," it wouldn't be too sugery. Link to comment
Rosie Posted December 25, 2005 Share Posted December 25, 2005 I'm glad Dansuer85 brought up "Alice in Wonderland," because I would choose David Del Tredici for the music. I loved his music for "Alice," and I think if he did "Snow White," it wouldn't be too sugery. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Alice in Wonderland has a balett sounds great :blush: to bad i can´t see it but when it will be put up in Sweden or Denmark i would love to see it Link to comment
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