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#61 silvy

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Posted 03 April 2003 - 11:13 AM

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Thanks for your news - how lucky Sizova's students are!!!

How I wish I could see her in person, teaching class (or taking class with her - even better)

Speaking about "ballet backs", I also find Makhalina's another wonder in the ballet world!!!

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Posted 15 April 2003 - 09:54 AM

I have another query.

I normally dance variations that demand balance on pointe, artistry, expressiveness as opposed to pyrotechnics (I am no virtuoso - sadly). For instance, I am currently dancing Corsaire (Medora's or Queen of Dryads), Don Q's second soloist (the one with the rond de jambes sur pointe), or Raymonda (first and third act), or Paquita's "harp", "Prelude" from "Les Sylphides".

It is years since I did a jumping variation (last time was the Mazurca from "Sylphides", since I have been experiencing trouble with my tendons. Now I feel better, and would like to try doing a big-jump variation (such as Gamzatti, or Don Q's first soloist). I wonder if in order to do a variation such as that you need a really HIGH jump (I am no Terekova, either, though I do jump, and I am "quick" as I am short).

thanks for feedback!!!

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Posted 22 April 2003 - 08:00 PM

I don't think you need a really incredible jump to perform those variations, but if you are planning on performing them onstage, it would be preferable to have strong grand allegro. However, if you need to work on grand allegro, those variations would probably be good studio practice. Being good at pirouettes helps, too. Lots of consecutive doubles in those variations.

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Posted 23 April 2003 - 06:30 AM

ok, you made me think when you suggested them as "studio practice" - after all, one has to look her best on performing!!

thanks for everything

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Posted 23 April 2003 - 08:52 AM

i have found this thread rather overwhelming - probably because not all of these variations are known to me.

i think it seems to be full of good ideas, and personal experiences and recommendations. i couldn't help wondering if there is a way to sort them out a bit - a way to make the information in here a bit more accessible, to students (or teachers), who might want this information, in future?

i had thought to go through these posts and 'sort' them, somehow...but i'm not sure how, and i really don't have the time. maybe someone else has a bright idea how to do it, and maybe even the urge to follow-thru...?

for example, if i were a student wanting to choose a variation, but not having seen many of them, where would i start to even think about them? i think it might help, to perhaps divide the many posts here into the comments about:

- variations for the adagio, long-legged, lyrical dancer

- variations for the shorter/ jumpy-type/faster dancer

- variations for the good-turner

- any other ideas of how to do it?

of course, some variations might be on several lists...

i realise that many such variations combine diverse skills, but i DO think (speaking as a teacher, anyway) that it IS possible to categorise many of them, according to the MAIN skills needed...has anyone got any thoughts about this, and/or an urge to try to do it? ;)

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Posted 23 April 2003 - 09:43 AM

I think it would probably require a moderator. What s/he could probably do, I think, would be to take comments relating to a particular type of variation as grace suggested above and place them in a new thread specifically for discussing that type of variation. Perhaps that would be more organized?

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Posted 23 April 2003 - 10:15 AM

Referring to what both Grace and Hans are saying, I wud say that I'll second Hans's suggestion for a moderator to sort this out. Maybe to have a special category made for this, as a reference to students, teachers and dancers.

Also what Grace implies that some variations might "overlap" somehow. I remember that a teacher of mine (an ex dancer with the Marquis de Cuevas, and a prima ballerina in Uruguay) once said that tall dancers could not do quick variations, while short dancers could tackle both slow and quick variations. I, personally, am very short, but I love slow variations (maybe because I would like to look like Yulia Makhalina, but I am the opposite!!!)

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Posted 06 May 2003 - 07:14 AM

Just would like to know if a new thread with classification of variations has been started!!!

thanks!!

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Posted 06 May 2003 - 11:49 AM

Another question, just as important: Does anyone have the time to do all that work!? ;)


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