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"moral harrassment" at the Paris Opera


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Posted 13 December 2002 - 12:19 AM

This is a little off the topic but, I noticed that someone mentioned the 'conservatoire'
what is this?

#32 Leigh Witchel

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Posted 13 December 2002 - 12:38 AM

Welcome to Ballet Alert, Gigi!

The Conservatoire is part of the education system of France, the one we are referring to (technically the Conservatoire national supérieure de musique et de danse de Paris) teaches music and dance, and is quite competitive - producing both excellent ballet and modern dancers (former ballet students include both Elisabeth Platel and Isabel Guerin)

The web site is in both English and French - have a look!

#33 Estelle

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Posted 13 December 2002 - 01:44 AM

Well, unfortunately the English part of their site still is "under construction". However, perhaps you can have a look at their site in French and use a translation tool like Babelfish.

Actually there are tenths of "Conservatoires" in France, they are public schools of music, ballet and sometimes theater, most of them are funded by the cities (conservatoires municipaux) and some also by the regions and the state. The better known ones are the CNSMDP (Conservatoire National Supérieur de Musique et de Danse de Paris), created in 1795, and the CNSMDL (Conservatoire National Supérieur de Musique et de Danse de Lyon) created in 1980.

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Posted 16 December 2002 - 04:29 PM

this is out of sequence, but earlier on, i mentioned the fact that the RBS had had a similar report done, several years ago. here is my post (from another board, now defunct) about that, in case anyone is interested here. i don't know if the link to the full report still works.:

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Inspectors' of the english Office for Standards in Education, into The Royal Ballet School, november 1999. (here is the site of the Office for Standards in Education: http://www.ofsted.gov.uk/ )

10 inspectors spent 4 days in the school (lower & upper), visiting "115
lessons and 28 ballet or dance classes and attended rehearsals. They examined pupils' written work, spoke to both staff and pupils, and scrutinised the school's policies and documents. A questionnaire was sent to all parents and the results analysed. In addition, a meeting attended by 25 parents was held at the school."

the specialist ballet input was provided by the director of the finnish ballet - sorry i don't know who that is/was at the time of the report.

interestingly, individuals are never named, presumably to re-inforce the aim of objective assessment.

here are some extracts (which will, of course, be immediately recogniseable to anyone who has been there! )

 PURPOSE AND SCOPE OF THE INSPECTION

This inspection was carried out in order to advise the Secretary of State for Education and Employment of the school's
suitability for registration under the Education Act 1996 and to report to the Government on those schools in receipt of
significant public funding.

MAIN FINDINGS

The Royal Ballet School successfully combines a uniquely high standard of ballet training with good standards of all-round
education. ..........

The school is well led and soundly managed, but aspects of management are in need of improvement. For example, ............

High standards are attained in all forms of dance, especially classical ballet. Pupils make good progress in dance throughout the school and excellent progress in the Upper School. Pupils' self-discipline in ballet lessons and their attitude to learning are of the highest order. They are eager to learn and work hard to perfect their skills. - - -

In 1998, 34 pupils in Year 10 and Year 11 were entered for the Elementary Royal Academy of Dancing Examination. This was
the first time that the school had entered pupils for this examination; there was a 100 per cent pass rate, just over half the pupils
gaining the top grade of honours. - - -

......annual balletic assessment. This end-of-year assessment combines
two sets of marks: 60 per cent is given for appraisal based on attendance, progress and attitude throughout the year, given by
the appropriate teacher; and the remaining marks are for performance in an assessment class in the presence of an assessing
panel. - - -

The school has recently upgraded some of the girls' boarding accommodation to a good standard, but some issues remain, including some overcrowding. The maintenance system needs to respond more rapidly to reports of breakage or breakdown. Management
needs to be sharpened in this area.

Pupils' comments on their boarding experiences in Years 7-9 were not positive; there was some justified disappointment with
the quality of boarding experience..........

The school is expensive to run; the cost per pupil, at almost £17,000, is substantial. This is due to the high levels of staffing, the costs of repairs in old buildings and the split-site accommodation. The condition and use of the libraries on both sites are unsatisfactory, although steps are being taken at White Lodge to address the issue.

- - -The behaviour of pupils of all ages is exemplary, both in lessons and around the school. They are unfailingly courteous and behave with great consideration for others. Overall, behaviour is such that teachers and pupils can devote their full attention and all the available time to advancing learning. ........

Pupils relate very well to each other and willingly work together. They listen to each other and show respect for their fellow pupils' views and concern for their feelings. They spontaneously applaud others' success and react with understanding when others make mistakes. Pupils of all ages relate very well to their teachers and most other adults in the school, in a respectful but, in most cases, very easy and friendly way.  

Pupils display a very good sense of responsibility for themselves, in their appearance, their work and their use of time. Their self-esteem is high.  
- - -

The changing rooms, showers and toilets at the east end of the building are in a very poor condition and need urgent
maintenance. - - -

Specific problems include: the shortage of pinboard for boys' use; a lack of soap and toilet rolls in the toilets; no closer on the fire door in
Dormitory 1; poor maintenance in Dormitory 3; overcrowding in rooms 4 and 5; windows which open too far in Dormitories 5, 6, 9 and 10. The toilet and bathroom to the rear of room 6 has a broken shower curtain allowing spillage onto an adjacent electrical heater. The school has plans to carry out repairs to boys' dormitories in its summer work programme for 2000.  

The school has recently upgraded some of the girls' boarding accommodation to a good standard, but some issues remain. The
Crescent is cramped, with beds too close together; some mattresses are in need of replacement; there are no fire exit signs in the Attic dormitory; there is a general lack of wardrobe space; windows lack restraints; towels are hung too close together; telephones lack privacy and there is no safety net at the top of the stairwell in Tito building; the sickbay is inadequate in size - - -

The condition and use of the libraries on both sites are unsatisfactory, although steps have been taken at White Lodge to address problems. Access to the Upper School library, which is kept locked, is limited. Most students are not aware that any member of staff has specific responsibility for the library. There is no obvious register of books and no signing out procedure. The room is poorly lit and has no computer facility, although several computers are inappropriately placed in a nearby corridor. - - -

The school is expensive to run; the cost per pupil, at almost £17,000, is substantial. This is due to the high levels of staffing, the
costs of maintenance and repairs on old buildings and the split-site accommodation.  - - -- - - etcetera


to read the full report, click on

http://www.ofsted.go...let.htm#Summary

#35 LMCtech

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Posted 17 December 2002 - 02:00 PM

Okay, so if the English can do does that mean that the French Can?

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Posted 17 December 2002 - 03:14 PM

The French can-can!;)

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Posted 18 December 2002 - 11:58 AM

LMCTech - i don't get it?!
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Posted 18 December 2002 - 12:26 PM

estelle, i am wondering about the phrase "moral harrassment".

is the french equivalent a term with a specific meaning? or is it a literal translation? i have just been thinking that it doesn't convey to me, what i would expect from the words... and wondering why. thanks for helping me understand.

:)

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Posted 18 December 2002 - 01:07 PM

In French, it is "harcèlement moral". It is a rather recent term, I think, and it's a bit like "sexual harrassment" (harcèlement sexuel), it refers to people who are badly treated at work by their colleagues or superiors (insulted, criticized all the time with no reason, etc.), sometimes in order to force them to resign. A book about it was very popular one or two years ago. The title of the first article in Libération "L'Opéra de Paris épinglé pour harcèlement moral" (The Paris Opera criticized for moral harrassment), and it focused mostly to what was written about the working conditions in some technical teams (costumes, wigs and make up), where an unusually high number of employees had resigned, had left earlier than planned for retirement or had been away for sickness, the term "harcèlement moral" wasn't about the POB school.

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Posted 18 December 2002 - 01:23 PM

thanks estelle. :D

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Posted 18 December 2002 - 02:12 PM

What I meant is, if the English can set up a decent boarding program, can the French? Or are the cultures and school systems too different? I'm not trying to be funny either. I legitimately have no idea whether an english model could be effectively be used in France.

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Posted 18 December 2002 - 03:23 PM

Then the term relates closely to the American term "creating or maintaining a hostile environment."

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Posted 19 December 2002 - 06:22 AM

LMTech, I think I can compare the French and British schools a little bit.
Unfortunately there is no real, big difference apart from the moral treatment in UK to be more subtle !
(the treatment from students to foreign children being worst !)
Those official reports in UK are -to my opinion- worthless.
Although I have to admit to be very impressed by it at the beginning ! Reality proofed something totally different !.
(I don't care much about a bulb missing and a toilet that can't be locked !)
Those official inspections are announced in advance, so the students are perfectly briefed and even getting Pilates-lessons...first time in 6 months !

It's not the system you can blame for everything, but -most important- the individual input of the teachers and the support they get from the management.
If only 2 in a lot of 8 are working with the "whole" class, one can start asking questions ! If you're paying 15.000 GBP a year for that and have to be appeased with a brilliant official report, while your child stays a whole year in a leaking dorm....I don't think the UK-schools are better or worser than the French ones. (I'm not talking White Lodge now)
Practical, boarding in UK is in terms of 6 weeks, with 1 free weekend in the middle, where in France (apart from some exceptions) it's a weekly boarding.

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Posted 21 December 2002 - 06:14 PM

viviane - i get the feeling you are basing your comments on some personal experience which we are not privy to? might it be possible for you to state facts or situations you are aware of, rather than innuendo? perhaps you have been a student at one or other place? readers here are usually very grateful for genuine personal insights...and you sound quite cynical, as a result of experience....

having lived at white lodge over one summer, visited the upper school many times, and known a fair number of people who attended both, i felt (when i read the RBS report) that it was a reasonable reflection of reality. it sounds as though you feel differently. i would be curious to hear more?

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Posted 22 December 2002 - 05:21 PM

on second thought, viviane, my queries would probably lead this POB school discussion off-topic... however, i would certainly be interested to read your thoughts, perhaps in a new thread, or even in an email?


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