tabitha Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 (edited) am so devastated!what a terrible loss.and so young. his ballets of sleeping beauty and la bayadere were by far my favorite i have ever ever seen . the sets and costumes were magnificent , why mess with the original i say! the acting and story put back to the original made all the difference the variety of the orignal steps brought back so wonderful. i hope there will be dvds of all his ballets is a disgrace there never were .all i can say is the kirov have no taste to have stopped performing these magnificent ballets and to not have put out dvds of them . and to not have brought the awakening of flora to the u.s.what a loss was looking forward to all the future magnificent reconstructions by the one and only sergei vikharev in years to come. am devastated beyond words. Edited June 9, 2017 by tabitha lots of typos ! Link to comment
Natalia Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 (edited) Agree that Vikharev's "Fab5" Petipa recons should be filmed & released as a set! Of the five, only the one produced outside of Russia - the LaScala Raymonda starring Novikova - is commercially available as DVD. The Bolshoi has "filmed" COPPELIA for cinemas (and will do so again this fall). That's two out of the five on commercial film, in some form or another. Only the Mariinsky refuses to take action to commit its three Vilharev-Petipa to full filming (SB, BAYA & FLORA). If anything, the sets & costumes for those three productions are being dispersed/dismantled. For example, the last time that I saw Aurora's A2 tutu, Lopatkina had "borrowed" it for a comic routine! Shame. Also, as many others have noticed, in the past few years the Mariinsky has been using some of the sets of the Vikharev new-old production on tours of their current (Soviet) production. Edited June 9, 2017 by Natalia Added Lopatkina comedy pdd link, using Vikharev Aurora tutu Link to comment
tabitha Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 am beginning to hate lopatkina... comic routine?! how could she .those sets and cosutmes are the best i have ever seen ! Link to comment
Natalia Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Amy said: It is disgraceful how the Mariinsky won't release Sergei's reconstructions onto DVD; the only thing they have done was the third act of his Sleeping Beauty reconstruction for that New Year's Gala a few years ago. How dare Lopatkina use such a beautiful costume in such an appalling manner! If the Mariinsky is not going to use all these gorgeous sceneries and costumes, why don't they just let other people use them?! Also, bits of the Vikharev SB Prologue and a big part of the A2 Vision scene, starring Ayupova & (I think) Fadeev, are featured in the 2005 docum film SACRED STAGE (filmed 2003). The largest chunk can be seen as a Bonus in the DVD...we spotted then-corps member Victoris Tereshkina (now a star) as one of the 18 nereids. That New Years Gala's A3 of SB that you mention is not complete...ending after the Aurora-Desire pdd (with Lopatkina's Dying Swan coming in as a surprise guest). So the grand apotheosis with the moving curtain - revealing the back tableau with the Gods, as floral swags are slowly lowered from the ceiling - is cut. Sacrilegious! Maybe Vikharev's most recent recon of a full Petipa ballet from the Harvard notes - the Ekaterinburg FILLE MAL GARDEE - will be filmed? Even though the Van Gogh-themed designs are new, they seem very pretty & colorful (not El Cheapo). Link to comment
Natalia Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 2 hours ago, tabitha said: am beginning to hate lopatkina... comic routine?! how could she .those sets and cosutmes are the best i have ever seen ! I wouldn't hate. Remember that Lopatkina & the other pupils of Natalia Dudinskaya (& her partner K. Sergeyev) simply wished to "do right" for their beloved teacher & coach. It's good to understand all sides. Link to comment
Natalia Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 (edited) Ok - deleted earlier quip. Not intended as joke! I can't stand dentists and will be even more hesitant to go now. Edited June 9, 2017 by Natalia Rewording Link to comment
Dreamer Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I find the use of the word "hate" towards one of the greatest ballerina of our time inappropriate for this forum despite the sad circumstances Vikharev's passing. I understand emotions are running high but Iwould appreciate more restrain in passing judgments. Link to comment
Cygnet Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 (edited) Re "Sleeping Beauty," the Prologue's scenery was sometimes used for the masquerade scene of the Mariinsky Opera's 1984 production of "Pique Dame." Other than that, it has been rarely deployed (if ever). Now there's a new production of that opera which premiered two years ago. When Vikharev produced "Beauty" in 1999, the production's realization was a costly enterprise, as the country was in the middle of financial crisis and devaluation of the rouble at the time. The extravagance of the production was debated in the midst of economic uncertainty and upheaval. I guess that was another point of contention against the production in addition to Sergei's revelatory work. The Mariinsky's management wasted the opportunity to film "Beauty," "Bayadere" and "Flora." They all should have been filmed for the sake of record, ballet history, and posterity. Edited June 9, 2017 by Cygnet Link to comment
cubanmiamiboy Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 On 6/9/2017 at 8:08 AM, Natalia said: If anything, the sets & costumes for those three productions are being dispersed/dismantled. For example, the last time that I saw Aurora's A2 tutu, Lopatkina had "borrowed" it for a comic routine! Shame. This is very sad. Looking at that beautiful tutu...and knowing the noble cause that prompted its creation...to now see it in yet another of those ever present, awful "comic" ballet routine is quite disgraceful. When I went to Russia I spoke to several people, and I coult sense a longing for the Soviet past in some of them-(the older ones). The Mariinsky might have changed its name for the sake of going with the "new-old" times, but its core is still probably 80% Kirov/K. Sergueev. Same with the Bolshoi and its even worse Geigorovich versions. Link to comment
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tabitha Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, cubanmiamiboy said: This is very sad. Looking at that beautiful tutu...and knowing the noble cause that prompted its creation...to now see it in yet another of those ever present, awful "comic" ballet routine is quite disgraceful. When I went to Russia I spoke to several people, and I coult sense a longing for the Soviet past in some of them-(the older ones). The Mariinsky might have changed its name for the sake of going with the "new-old" times, but its core is still probably 80% Kirov/K. Sergueev. Same with the Bolshoi and its even worse Geigorovich versions. 5 hours ago, cubanmiamiboy said: This is very sad. Looking at that beautiful tutu...and knowing the noble cause that prompted its creation...to now see it in yet another of those ever present, awful "comic" ballet routine is quite disgraceful. When I went to Russia I spoke to several people, and I coult sense a longing for the Soviet past in some of them-(the older ones). The Mariinsky might have changed its name for the sake of going with the "new-old" times, but its core is still probably 80% Kirov/K. Sergueev. Same with the Bolshoi and its even worse Geigorovich versions. 5 hours ago, cubanmiamiboy said: This is very sad. Looking at that beautiful tutu...and knowing the noble cause that prompted its creation...to now see it in yet another of those ever present, awful "comic" ballet routine is quite disgraceful. When I went to Russia I spoke to several people, and I coult sense a longing for the Soviet past in some of them-(the older ones). The Mariinsky might have changed its name for the sake of going with the "new-old" times, but its core is still probably 80% Kirov/K. Sergueev. Same with the Bolshoi and its even worse Geigorovich versions. oops sorry am very bad at computer sorry have quoted 3 x... so far ...i agree cubanmiamiboy- is like a slap in the face . Edited June 11, 2017 by tabitha Link to comment
tabitha Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, Gnossie said: Today is the Ninth Day, those who understand about the Orthodox Church know what it means... Ismene Brown has translated Kuznetsova's beutiful euology so those who don't understand Russian can enjoy it here : "Ballet's magician is gone" http://www.ismeneb.com/blogs-list/170608-magician-vikharev-is-gone.html thank you gnossie very much for the translation.is wonderful.i love sergei vikahrevs sleeping beauty so much .is so wonderful to see how it was as petipa and Vsevolozhsky originally wanted it .there's no comparison to me bewteen that and the later ones its so far above them . same for la bayadere and the wonderful 4th act especially . im wondering why the original la fille mal gardee sets and costumes were not recreated , was it the managements idea rather than sergei vikharevs or maybe there were no photos of the originals because what i loved about the sleeping beauty and la bayadere were the reconstructed sets and costumes besides the reconstructed steps acting and story.is there anyone at all who can continue what segei vikahrev has done including the original sets and costumes? i know no one can take his place ever but just hoping there is someone with his knowledge and appreciation of the old ballets ,maybe even earlier ones than petipa too even though he is my favorite but maybe saint leon and others although maybe they arent as notated but maybe someday more information will turn up .am still stunned and sad .and also reminded again how disgracefully he was treated by the kirov . is so unfair what does the 9th day mean? Quote photos added to previous page Edited June 11, 2017 by tabitha Link to comment
dirac Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Quote Because of that choreographic greatness, his ballets are much more than nostalgic luxury items or celebrations of absolutism. (That was more or less Wendy Perron's objection to ABT's investment in the Ratmansky Sleeping Beauty reconstruction.) Quite right. Probably the original political subtext of the ballet would be less problematic if attempts at political rehabilitation of the Romanovs weren't very much ongoing. Link to comment
tabitha Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 (edited) thank you gnossie so much so glad to find someone who agrees with me !and that i agree with. i thought that might be the reason. money. glad that sergei vikharev would have wanted the sets and costumes also reconstructed . i hope someday mr pavel Gershenzon ,so glad to know he is there ,could redo the orignal sets and costumes and that for all future ones money will be found to pay for reconstructed sets and costumes it makes all the difference . there must be some big companies that would fund it or more money from the govermnent like before would be great.as pretty as the costumes are its just not the same to me as the ones before , i know they did the best they could but how i wish they will someday reconstruct the original sets and costumes thank you so much for kind offer of p m. i might bug you more! i love ballet and none more than sergei vikharevs reconstructions a total revelation of beauty and magic and another world and time .i loved so many details. thank you for the 9 day information too . Edited June 12, 2017 by tabitha typos Link to comment
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