Which Florimunds have you seen?
Posted 06 November 2001 - 12:39 PM
Who has defined the role for you? Why?
(It would be nice to include what you expect out of a Florimund.)
Posted 06 November 2001 - 01:34 PM
rudolph nureyev (with karen kain, nadia potts and veronica tennant)
patrick armand (with trinidad sevillano)
vladimir malakhov (with julie kent)
igor zelensky (with svetlana zakharova)
stephen jeffries (with gelsey kirkland)
that's what comes to mind for now. assessment later? smile.gif
[ November 06, 2001: Message edited by: Mme. Hermine ]
Posted 08 November 2001 - 09:03 AM
I've seen Nureyev, Dowell, David Blair, Donald Macleary, Anton Korsakov, Fadayev, Zelensky, and various others I've forgotten, and some on video. I wouldn't say any of them "defined the role" for me, but they were all acceptable. Dowell was the best dancer, and since he had the looks too, he probably wins! Nureyev had too much personality for Florimund, I feel, too dominating.
Posted 08 November 2001 - 09:14 AM
Does anyone know why the Prince has 2 names, Florimund and Desire? This has puzzled me for years.
Posted 09 November 2001 - 11:38 AM
Best performances? Dowell and John Gilpin were two of the best for looking noble. Nureyev was perfect with Fonteyn but a degree or so less perfect with other partners, but Nikolai Fadeyechev, whose performance is captured on video manages to dance superbly and look the part. I think he is the dancer who most defines the role for me.
Last year I saw Nikolai Tsiskaridze dance the role in Barcelona and he was a revelation. I have seen no one dance quite like that. He dances at phenomenal speed and then has the ability to accelerate into a kind of overdrive. It was incredibly exciting for the audience. Has anyone else seen him in that role?
Posted 11 November 2001 - 07:50 AM
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Posted 11 November 2001 - 01:35 PM
My two Princes were Nureyev and Dowell. I saw Nureyev much more often -- I didn't like the four-solos-in-the-second-act version either. I liked Nureyev and Dowell not only for the beauty of their dancing, but because they could fill the role, something very few people can do. I never wanted the Prince to "do more" or wondered why he wasn't dancing. Both Nureyev and Dowell WERE always dancing -- their walk was dancing.
Posted 11 November 2001 - 02:58 PM
Many years before that, I saw Peter Martins as the prince with my civic ballet in Miami. We performed Ben Stevenson's version with National Ballet of Washington's sets and costumes (plus many of their soloists and principles). I was mostly interested in watching Violette Verdy as Aurora, so I don't remember much about Martins except that he seemed very noble in the hunting scene.
Posted 11 November 2001 - 03:33 PM
I saw Nureyev as the prince with National Ballet of Canada at The MET. I mostly remember thinking that his choice of ending his wedding variation in fifth position was interesting.
Ah, that ending. I swear I saw one performance where he ended in attitude on high demi-pointe, THEN slammed into fifth position (after having done a double air turn in between each turning jump in the coda), and stood there, arms up, gathering in his applause, making it absolutely clear that nothing further was going to happen until the entire Met stood. (We responded.)
Posted 11 November 2001 - 05:37 PM
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Posted 12 November 2001 - 07:22 AM
I would have liked to write as follows:
I don't think the role of Prince Florimund (or Desire) boring at all. It should be as difficutl and scaring for the male dancers to dance as Princess Aurora for the female dancers.
I think to dance Prince Florimund reveals what he is, where he comes from, or what kind of dancer he is. Actually he doesn't seem to have so much free scope for his acting. If he does, he may look a bit over the top. There seems to be nothing for him to hide himself.
Some of my impressive Prince Florimund are Manuel Legris, Jean Guillaume Bart (POB), Andrei Uvalov, Sergei Filin (Bolshoi), Igol Zelensky (Kirov), Bruce Sansom, Stephen Jeffries, Jonathan Cope (Royal), Roland Price (Birmingham Royal), Valdimir Malakhov, etc. I saw Anthony Dowell dancing Prince Florimund on video only and he looks brilliant.
Prince Florimund is not a role to show off techiniqe or to act a lot. But I do love this role, because it seems to show us the essence of
Posted 12 November 2001 - 10:22 AM
Angleterre -- no apologies necessary. I deleted your first post. Did you know you can edit your own posts? Just click on the little pencil icon at the top of the message block, and you can go in and change things. All of us drop words, or make spelling mistakes when we type and you'll see a lot of "edited by xxx" lines at the end of posts smile.gif
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