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Veronika Part doing Giselle at the Mariinsky !!!


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#31 macnellie

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 03:04 PM

Is act 2 up?

#32 fondoffouettes

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 03:18 PM

Is act 2 up?

No, and it's killing me! I guess we should really count our blessings for any Veronika Part videos, though. I found this playlist of all ballet videos featuring Part, and it's sadly not a very long one:

 

https://www.youtube....14A9967C56F5C2E

 

Some nice snippets in there, though.



#33 Buddy

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 05:57 PM

As much as I have to treat video clips as often the roughest of sketches, I've watched all the ones from Act I and greatly look forward to the possibility of seeing Act II.

 

Her "mad scene,"which I usually try to 'finesse,' is as sensitive a handling as I've ever seen and shows her at her dramatic finest.

 

She is one of the ballet greats of our time, perhaps beyond our times, and hopefully will be given as many opportunities as possible by ABT and the Mariinsky. My dream for years has been to see her perform Swan Lake at the Mariinsky Festival. 



#34 cubanmiamiboy

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 06:55 PM

As much as I have loved Veronika in what I've seen from her-(Lilac, NIkiya, Chopiniana's Prelude)-she does not "get me" as Giselle...that on top of seeing some of her old technical struggling coming back, as with her Act I Pas Seul).



#35 nanushka

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Posted 04 August 2014 - 04:10 AM

As much as I have loved Veronika in what I've seen from her-(Lilac, NIkiya, Chopiniana's Prelude)-she does not "get me" as Giselle...that on top of seeing some of her old technical struggling coming back, as with her Act I Pas Seul).

 

It's rare that we have video to rely on, rather than our faulty memories, and particularly with Veronika's performances.  Could you be more specific and point to instances in the pas seul where you see "some of her old technical struggling coming back"?

 

This is not meant as a challenge.  I genuinely want to know what you're referring to and want to learn to see better what's there, since I'm not a dancer myself.



#36 mimsyb

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Posted 04 August 2014 - 06:07 AM

As much as I have loved Veronika in what I've seen from her-(Lilac, NIkiya, Chopiniana's Prelude)-she does not "get me" as Giselle...that on top of seeing some of her old technical struggling coming back, as with her Act I Pas Seul).

First, let me say I love Veronika Part.  And it is most likely unfair to judge any performance by a few clips (however good they may be).  It's always better to see something "live".  Yet I couldn't help think as I watched these clips how "by the numbers" her "Giselle" seemed.  She hit all the right moments, did the choreography and the mime, was "on the music", etc.  Yet it didn't appear to transcend anything or go very deep into the character.  I didn't see anything in her portrayal that especially stood out or made the performance different or better than many recent portrayals.  This may or may not be a condition of the rest of the cast on stage.  Everyone seemed very "proper" and rather contained.  Why on earth are the corps girls standing in B-plus position during her mad scene?  And take it again after she dies?  Seems weird and un natural.  But this is about Veronika and as such it is my hope that she gets more opportunities to dance the role  in the future.  She needs to find a way into the character more and allow the choreography and mime to do it's work.  Right now, she seems to have imposed herself into the ballet and as a result, she looks a bit awkward, unfocused.  These roles take time to develop.  Right now, her "Giselle" seems very much a work in progress.   All this said, I would love to see her Act II.



#37 abatt

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Posted 04 August 2014 - 06:22 AM

Have to agree with cubanmiamiboy and mimsyb on this one.  Though it's difficult to judge from limited clips, I wasn't terribly impressed.  I have to wonder how much training she received for the role.  I also think she would do better with additional performances under her belt, but it's doubtful whether those opportunities will ever come to her at ABT. 



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Posted 04 August 2014 - 01:40 PM

Could you be more specific and point to instances in the pas seul where you see "some of her old technical struggling coming back"?

 

 

@ 1:17.  

 



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Posted 04 August 2014 - 04:32 PM

Thanks, MRR for posting the mad scene! And Christian, only a slight bobble I can overlook. On to Act II!



#40 cubanmiamiboy

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Posted 04 August 2014 - 08:45 PM

I also have a problem with Part's natural princess-like demeanor and how it weights on the role here.  She looks way more regal than "the girl with the hat..." 



#41 volcanohunter

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 08:30 AM

Nowadays there is a very unfortunate tendency to perform this variation excruciatingly slowly. (My great pet peeve is when the ballerina performs her first arabesque and the music comes to an almost complete halt so that she can hold the balance, and then inches along by another couple of notes, only to stop again so that she can complete her footwork and give us a good, long look at her pointed foot, and so on.) When a crawling tempo is combined with Part's air of composure and self-possession, it is very difficult for the variation to convey Giselle’s irrepressible love for dancing and the sheer joy of finally winning her mother’s permission to do it.



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Posted 05 August 2014 - 09:04 AM

Interesting thoughts from everyone.  When I made my earlier comment, I wasn't meaning to say that I found Part to be one of the all-time great Giselles based on these clips.  She isn't, and, in fact, I don't know if I even "see" a Giselle here.  But I saw the clips of her during the entrance and mad scene and was surprised at how much I enjoyed her, especially since I could never picture her in this role.  She seemed radiant in the opening scene and had some very interesting nuances in the mad scene.  Considering she is making a debut in a role not suited to her and dancing with a very bland partner, I thought she performed very well. 

 

Though I'm just now seeing the Spessivtseva clip, and she looks oddly tense (is that the word?) throughout the whole variation, not just the turns.  I agree with Volcanohunter about the slow tempo, but could a ballerina of Part's height really handle much faster?   As I mentioned before, I have seen Part in supposedly a lot of her best roles and am never much moved by her work (I'm definitely in a small minority on this forum).  Her Shades scene in this year's Bayadere was perhaps the first time I "got" her--she was serenity personified--but then I thought her first act was dramatically inert in comparison to Vishneva's.



#43 volcanohunter

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 09:38 AM

...could a ballerina of Part's height really handle much faster? 

 

Good question. At 5'10" Agnès Letestu is the tallest Giselle who comes to mind, and judging by YouTube, I'd say she performed the variation at a moderately fast tempo. I'm inclined to think the super-slow tempo is usually a matter of (misguided) interpretation, because even tiny ballerinas are prone to do it that way.



#44 abatt

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 09:53 AM

Sylvie Guillem did Giselle, as well as Polina Semionova.  Both are quite tall.  Personally, I didn't buy into Semionova's Giselle for one second, although it was very strong technically.  Can't recall much about Guillem, as it was too long ago.  Only thing I can recall were those extensions in which she brought her leg up to her ear.



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Posted 05 August 2014 - 10:49 AM

I wonder why ballerinas nowadays are not up to the technical challenge of the double pirouettes on each side without having to change the working leg...(it is probably the fact of having to do the trick with a leg that's generally not used as the working one, usually the left one...)

 

@ 0:33 in Markova..

 

vs. Part @ 1:11




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