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Baryshnikov's SWAN LAKE for ABT from 1988Martine van Hamel & Kevin McKenzie


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#16 sandik

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 10:29 AM

the only presumably black tutu with black tights in illustrations i've seen of SWAN LAKE at the Mariinsky around the time of creation has been a shot of Vera Trefilova, who in 1985 appears to have danced one of the black-clad swan maidens in final act of the ballet.

 

(and since she was born in 1875, that's a long career)

 

That is a beautiful image of Y Gerdt -- her pose is very evocative.



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Posted 22 August 2013 - 11:25 AM

It is very interesting how there are almost no photos of any Imperial or Diaguilev era dancer as Odile-(or pre1940's). Apparently, when N. Sergueev staged the ballet for Markova during the 1930's at the Vic-Wells, she wore a non black costume also, but there's no way to find a photo of it anywhere.  All the photos of Swan Lake from those days are usually with the white attire.

Apparently by the time the PDD was being danced in the early days of the BRdMC, the costume had turned into black already...

 

Mia Slavenska...

 

http://digital.lib.b...10/id/92/rec/16

 

I wonder what could be the role in this Doubrovska pic...

 

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 11:46 AM

if mem. serves this photo of Doubrovska is captioned as showing her in the title role of some production of THE FIREBIRD. if i can find a firm date and credit, i'll post it.

and duhhh. that's some typo in my Trefilova comment: o'course i meant to place her in the 1895 SWAN LAKE not some production in 90 years later...



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Posted 22 August 2013 - 02:20 PM

if mem. serves this photo of Doubrovska is captioned as showing her in the title role of some production of THE FIREBIRD. if i can find a firm date and credit, i'll post it.

and duhhh. that's some typo in my Trefilova comment: o'course i meant to place her in the 1895 SWAN LAKE not some production in 90 years later...

Hey, it's August -- silly season ho!



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Posted 22 August 2013 - 03:05 PM

whatever production that photo is attached to -- it's an amazing costume!



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 05:00 AM

f.y.i. the photo above of Doubrovska would seem to be one from the same time as a similar one reproduced in The Russian Ballet, 1932, W. A. Propert. It's shown in plate XXV alongside a full figure photo of Lydia Lopokova, in a harem-pants' variant on the costume for the Firebird.

the full caption in the book is "Two 'Firebirds' in 1926."

the picture of Doubrovska is credited to Lipnitzki, who may or may not be responsible for the photo scanned above.

(my copy of this somewhat rare volume is too fragile and oversize to fit into my scanner.)



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 06:17 AM

Yes, I found also some other poses taken from the same Bluebird Doubrovska's shot.  (I wonder if she ever danced the whole SL ballet...)

 

Back to the pre-black costume for Odile...I wonder why is it so hard to find old pics of ballerinas costumed with the ballroom attire...either Imperial or Diaghilev era.



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 07:10 AM

the mention of 'bluebird' above i take to be a slip of the keys, an action i'm quite practiced in myself, and that what's meant is 'firebird'?

Beaumont's rundown of what SWAN LAKE stagings were given in Diaghilev's co. is succinct and clearly stresses that these Ballets Russes versions were truncated, with the first act/scene on the terrace of castle cut altogether.

oddly when he notes casts he calls the leading ballerina only Queen of the Swans, Kshessinska or Karsavina for instance, and makes no particular mention of Odile, tho' we know from reports, Svetlov's, for ex., that Trefilova (and Kshessinska) did Odile complete with fouette turns.

and yes, it would seem that pre-revolution photos of dancers in the role of Odile are scarce to put it mildly.

Andrew Foster's Karsavina book has some pre-1917 photos of the ballerina as Odette but not Odile. those of her Odile, in the same mode as the one posted above and that appear toward the end of his book date from 1918, and even these seem rarities.

re: Doubrovska's connection to SWAN LAKE, the entry on her in The International Dictionary of Ballet lists her in the role of Odette for SWAN LAKE, ACT 2 but doesn't list anywhere that she danced a full production as Odette/Odile.



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 07:12 AM

It is very interesting how there are almost no photos of any Imperial or Diaguilev era dancer as Odile-(or pre1940's). Apparently, when N. Sergueev staged the ballet for Markova during the 1930's at the Vic-Wells, she wore a non black costume also, but there's no way to find a photo of it anywhere.  All the photos of Swan Lake from those days are usually with the white attire.

 

Actually there are some photos of Markova in Odile's costume for the Vic-Wells production - you can almost always find a Gordon Anthony photo of productions from that era! Mary Clarke described the costume as 'golden with red-gold sequins' and in the photos it looks very light-coloured. (GA even has a photo of Markova at a rehearsal wearing the tutu half-finished, before all the sequins were added.)

 

Hugh Stevenson re-designed the production in 1937 for Fonteyn, and her costume for Odile had a very dark bodice - possibly black - but the skirt was definitely not all-black, and had light-colourd drapery on it too.



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 07:57 AM

as Mel pointed out on a previous thread regarding the color of Odile's costume, black and white photos are a world unto themselves, with red reading as black. if mem. serves early British Odiles were dressed in scarlet, tho' i'm not certain if this hue was associated with Fonteyn's costuming per se.



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 04:41 PM

 

oddly when he notes casts he calls the leading ballerina only Queen of the Swans, Kshessinska or Karsavina for instance, and makes no particular mention of Odile, tho' we know from reports, Svetlov's, for ex., that Trefilova (and Kshessinska) did Odile complete with fouette turns.

and yes, it would seem that pre-revolution photos of dancers in the role of Odile are scarce to put it mildly.

Andrew Foster's Karsavina book has some pre-1917 photos of the ballerina as Odette but not Odile. those of her Odile, in the same mode as the one posted above and that appear toward the end of his book date from 1918, and even these seem rarities.

re: Doubrovska's connection to SWAN LAKE, the entry on her in The International Dictionary of Ballet lists her in the role of Odette for SWAN LAKE, ACT 2 but doesn't list anywhere that she danced a full production as Odette/Odile.

 

 

If the tradition of placing only one ballerina to dance both O/O roles came after a while, I suppose I can take a wild guess at thinking that maybe the ballerina assigned to the role of Odile was seeing just as a brief appearance...one short technically demanding PDD probably given to a gifted dancer that otherwise was not well suited dramatically for grander roles-(Vaganova-type perhaps?).   Considering that she just danced a few minutes in a very long ballet with countless stage appearances for the "Queen of the Swans", it couldn't pose no danger for the stardom of the main ballerina.  Also, no too many pictures are also of dancers who were given different soloist parts in the XIX century productions.



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Posted 24 August 2013 - 06:28 AM

re: the one- or two-ballerina tradition for SWAN LAKE and its Odette & Odile roles, the latter, two-ballerina variant comes subsequent to the1877 start of SL history, and then only on rather isolated occasions.. 

Beaumont says a second Grosky production, in 1920, following one from '01 where he used one ballerina for O/O, initially Adelna Giuri, split the roles for two different dancers.

It's for the '20 prod. that Beaumont writes: "Originally, it was intended that both Odette and Odile should wear large swan's wings which the dancers would agitate while dancing, but these were found impractical and discarded after a dress rehearsal." sketches Dyachkov of costumes with wings in Demidov, annotated as showing Odette in the second act, and Odile in both the SECOND! and third acts,  are a puzzle, while Odile slated for the second act (as background figure with Rothbart?) is in costuming colored in reds, blacks, and greens, for the third act she's in a low waisted chemise of green and rose with white swan wings and medieval headdress topped by coronet. Odette for the second act is in all white, with similar wings and with a large emerald on her bodice and smaller ones around her waist. with evident intentions for putting both Odette and Odile in the second act, two ballerinas would be required. Beaumont reports that for this staging Gorsky cast the newly graduated E. M. Ilushenko, while the more seasoned and well known M. P. Reisen danced Odile. 

then, o'course, there was Vaganova's 'updated' '34 staging, but essentially O/O was a one ballerina role.

the first performances in the America, on a 1911 tour led by Mordkin and Geltser had Geltser dancing O/O at some performances and Julie Sedova at others.

regardless, whether given by the same ballerina dancing Odette, or a separate one, Odile is rarely pictured in archival illustrations.

as for solo roles in the ballet, certainly these are not as plentiful as pictures of ballerinas costumed for Odette, but photos of the divertissement dancers, and even of random soloist swan maidens - i have some of these, Alexandra Baldina, for ex.  among others - exist in limited numbers.



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Posted 01 September 2013 - 04:55 PM

The tutu that Gerdt is wearing is spectacular, especially the bodice.




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