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Breaking Pointe Season Two


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#106 Helene

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Posted 03 September 2013 - 02:31 PM

(Sorry for the two separate posts. I went in to add a link to the post above, and all of the quotes and answers mysteriously nested.)
 

Beckanne and Allison looked lovely during their performance parts. Too bad Allison's boyfriend couldn't be bothered to show up.

Sisk looked so beautiful in that costume, I was all verklempt.

At one point deBona said something about Tilton (Rex) coming into her life 3.5 years ago. Screech, run the recording back. 3.5 years ago??? That means when the first season was taped, she and Tilton had been having a relationship of some kind(s) for 1.5-2 years, which is not the way it read last season. That makes Jonathan's insecurity a lot more understandable, and it makes Tilton seem a lot less stalker-y and delusional in retrospect.

Still, it is over a year later, and to recap: 1. Jonathan's got the girl, 2. Tilton doesn't have the girl, 3. deBona is willing to hand over her career and move back to Michigan to be with Jonathan, if he shows up for her adieu to the stage and, as the kids would say, recognizes the quite amazing thing she's accomplished in dance and support her in ending her career gracefully. (Assuming that the chronology shown is accurate, not something I'd bet the house on.) That doesn't seem to be enough for him -- it's not like he left her a v-mail to say he was planning to come, but then her grandmother became ill, and he couldn't leave -- and if he's going to make her pay over and over again because she's not the girl who was never with Rex, I know what advice Dan Savage would give her. I hope the fact that she's still on the BW roster means she will be back to dance in 2013-14 and didn't give up her career for someone who needs a kick in the head has some unresolved issues.

 

 

I'm genuinely curious about this, and excuse me if the question is a bit silly... but I often find myself wondering if the lack of actual dance on the show has to do with copyright/permission issues.



I personally think that has an awful lot to do with it. And is probably why we don't hear much of the Prokofiev music accompanying the ballet. And any dancers that didn't sign on to the show will necessarily be omitted.

 


I think rights issues probably have a lot to do with how the ballets are shown, and that if a dancer does not want to be shown, at least outside rehearsal, class, or performance, s/he may be able to opt out, but Tom Mattingly and Christopher Ruud were featured in episodes last season when they weren't "cast" and others have been shown chatting on the couches with featured dancers.



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Posted 03 September 2013 - 02:41 PM

I too was surprised by Allison's revelation that Rex and she go that far back. We don't have enough information from Doc in Detroit to know all of his side of the story (and no, I'm not asking for any more) but if he didn't bother to at least inform DeBona that he wasn't coming to see her dance, that fact alone speaks pretty eloquently. Bennett's forthright remarks to DeBona on the subject at the end of last night's episode seem on the mark to this viewer. On the other hand, given that Allison and Rex are getting quite flirty again, maybe Jonathan was right to save on plane fare. I had hoped that he would show up, if only to give this storyline a rest.

 

I wasn't surprised by Christiana's age (in fact, judging by looks alone I would not have been surprised if she was younger, not older).



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Posted 03 September 2013 - 05:03 PM

deBona might have been awful to Dr. Detroit. She might have ripped his guts out. However, if he wants a relationship with her, it's with with her, not with an alternate universe Alison who made other choices, just as if she ends up with Tilton, they don't get a memory-free do-over. I've never seen what seems to be his strategy working out all that well, emotionally at least.

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Posted 03 September 2013 - 05:28 PM

....and if he's going to make her pay over and over again because she's not the girl who was never with Rex, I know what advice Dan Savage would give her. I hope the fact that she's still on the BW roster means she will be back to dance in 2013-14 and didn't give up her career for someone who needs a kick in the head has some unresolved issues.

Helene quoting Dan Savage?  speechless-smiley-003.gif   Truly she has a wide spectrum of reading material.  



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Posted 03 September 2013 - 06:14 PM

deBona might have been awful to Dr. Detroit. She might have ripped his guts out. However, if he wants a relationship with her, it's with with her, not with an alternate universe Alison who made other choices, just as if she ends up with Tilton, they don't get a memory-free do-over. I've never seen what seems to be his strategy working out all that well, emotionally at least.

 

I've been doing my best not to say anything about the personal relationship scenes - but, Dr. Detroit sent a rather strong message: not exactly of rejection, but more one of passive-agressive punishment. He's obvioulsy waiting for DeBona to jump through some hoops to prove herself. But his timing is way off - he should have come through for HER at this point. He's got to demonstrate that he respects her (and that would include DeBona's career commitments). I definitely get the feeling that he doesn't think she's doing serious things (like he is). DeBona just needs to get that the best thing she can do with her life is shuck it all and wait on Dr. D hand and foot.  ;)

 

I do feel for DeBona because her other obvious option is to get back together with a rather "young" Rex Tilton, who really needs more time learning about life (ideally). But nothing ever happens when you want it to. Tilton has possession issues too, and spent the entire 1st season of the show being happy about DeBona's behavior.

 

And then there's Bennett talking about some rule she and Ruud have where they can't talk to each other at work. Seriously? How unworkable and childish is that? Well now we know.



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Posted 03 September 2013 - 08:57 PM

Alison does point out to Christianna that in the past Dr Detroit drove her to all her auditions and was her biggest fan.  It might be that he felt he supported her, only to have her move away and get into a 3 1/2 year relationship with someone else.  So he resents her career for those reasons.  I'm reading waaaaaaaayyyyy too much into this.  I hate it when my mom analyzes my brother's relationship with his succession of girlfriends, and here I am - doing the same thing to strangers.  Granted, strangers who were willing to appear on a TV show, but still. 

 

Anyway, I still think she would be lovely at Grand Rapids Ballet, and would receive great direction from the AD, Patricia Barker (another long, tall, cool beauty).  However, I'm not sure at this late date if there is an open spot for her there. More's the pity.  



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Posted 03 September 2013 - 10:04 PM

It is a pity, and I think deBona would look great in the Grand Rapids rep. There are lots of miles between SLC and Grand Rapids, even if she choose Dr. Detroit and they aren't together all the time because it's not a reasonable commute from Detroit and Grand Rapids.

While Tilton said several times during the last episode that if he weren't promoted, he wanted to be somewhere else, he is on the current roster as a First Soloist. Was he a Soloist last season and got the promotion, or was he a First Soloist last season as well? Edited to add: I should remember that Google Is My Friend and look it up before asking questions. According to the 2013-14 Ballet West promotion announcement, Tilton jumped from Demi-Soloist to First Soloist, a two-level leap, and I'm guessing it was "Cinderella" that helped to earn promotions to Principal for Arolyn Wiliiams and Tom Mattingly, and possibly Haley Henderson Smith.

As it turns out, there was another man given a Ballet West contract from Ballet West II in addition to the spot over which Prentice and Tanzer were competing. Two of the Ballet West II women also joined the Company.

 

 

 


And then there's Bennett talking about some rule she and Ruud have where they can't talk to each other at work. Seriously? How unworkable and childish is that? Well now we know.

I've seen this work quite well in several (non-dance) companies for which I've worked, but it helps when the people are doing better outside the workplace.



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Posted 04 September 2013 - 11:50 AM

 Granted, strangers who were willing to appear on a TV show, but still. 

 

 

These are dancers were willing to appear on a television show for the benefit of their company and to publicize the art form to which their lives are dedicated. Just saying.



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Posted 04 September 2013 - 11:51 AM

Unfortunately, the way the show is cut and what is emphasized, not a lot of publicizing the art is happening.



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Posted 04 September 2013 - 11:55 AM

Unfortunately, the way the show is cut and what is emphasized, not a lot of publicizing the art is happening.

It may feel that way to us, but for the vast majority of the television audience who really don't have any experience with the art form, this is an incredible amount of information.



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 11:11 AM

It's Time to Face the Music
Season 2, Ep. 8
Original Air Date: Sep 9, 2013

"With closing night of "Cinderella" just around the corner, the dancers continue to give it all they've got."

 

Most thrilling episode of all? Or anticlimactic letdown? Or still sleep inducing? You make the call!



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 05:35 PM

Cheer up, naysayers: With these ratings, soon you may not have "Breaking Pointe" to kick around any more.

 

The network renewed the Ballet West docu-series last year despite poor ratings and this summer’s ratings have been even worse. Season one averaged 780,000 weekly viewers while season two has been averaging 490,000.

 



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 07:47 PM

 

Cheer up, naysayers: With these ratings, soon you may not have "Breaking Pointe" to kick around any more.

 

I can't say that I'm totally surprised as this last season was not particularly charming, imo. And without charm, there's nothing to draw people in. In the last episode - the 'finale' - we see the BW dancers are invited to perform at a private fund raising gala. They perform and join in the party at a very upscale L.A. home, but it is a small gathering that we see on camera, and somehow it feels rather lackluster, and lot of trouble to go to for a contribution. But I'm sure Adam Sklute also intended it as a fun end-of-season outing for the company. But a few of his dancers are dealing with real troubles in their private lives, especially Bennett and Ruud, who we learn are divorcing. Which just brings everything to a low ebb. At least there was very little of Zach Prentice in the finale (sorry Zach fans!).

 

When I think back over the 2 seasons, the only things I really learned about concerned interviews/contracts and company apprenticeships. Any real information concerning the ballets danced was mostly omitted, or cut into little bits. Not charming, and really not inspiring.



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 08:41 PM

 

 

Cheer up, naysayers: With these ratings, soon you may not have "Breaking Pointe" to kick around any more.

 

I can't say that I'm totally surprised as this last season was not particularly charming, imo. And without charm, there's nothing to draw people in. In the last episode - the 'finale' - we see the BW dancers are invited to perform at a private fund raising gala. They perform and join in the party at a very upscale L.A. home, but it is a small gathering that we see on camera, and somehow it feels rather lackluster, and lot of trouble to go to for a contribution. But I'm sure Adam Sklute also intended it as a fun end-of-season outing for the company. But a few of his dancers are dealing with real troubles in their private lives, especially Bennett and Ruud, who we learn are divorcing. Which just brings everything to a low ebb. At least there was very little of Zach Prentice in the finale (sorry Zach fans!).

 

When I think back over the 2 seasons, the only things I really learned about concerned interviews/contracts and company apprenticeships. Any real information concerning the ballets danced was mostly omitted, or cut into little bits. Not charming, and really not inspiring.

 

 

I enjoyed the bits of ballet in the final episode--and the glimpses of the Malibu mansion; also kind of liked Christiana making the case for supporting the arts to a donor. But from a 'storyline' point of view, the episode was a downer.



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 09:33 PM

 

Unfortunately, the way the show is cut and what is emphasized, not a lot of publicizing the art is happening.

It may feel that way to us, but for the vast majority of the television audience who really don't have any experience with the art form, this is an incredible amount of information.

 

 

True, and it'll be a real shame if the show is canceled, its flaws notwithstanding. There aren't many other shows on basic cable featuring Wendy Ellis Somes coaching. Fingers crossed. 

 

Since this final episode apparently wasn't the real season wrap-up, if the article is accurate, we won't know the note that the show was intended to close on unless that episode sees the light of day. These last two episodes weren't bad - as with last season the show did improve over time,. I liked the dancing that we did see and the dancers looked cool and happy posing in their sunglasses. Perhaps I have heard Christiana declare that work is her refuge a few too many times (and I was slightly stupefied by Allison's announcement that she realized she's been in love with Sexy Rexy all along). Divorce is always tough but judging by Monday's episode Chris will not be wanting for consolation. Good luck to both of them. If there is a third season I'll be curious to find out if Rex holds firm in his intent to keep Allison at arm's length for the time being....

 

.....kind of liked Christiana making the case for supporting the arts to a donor.

 

 

That was a nice bit.




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