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#46 Helene

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 08:28 AM

I think it's pretty clear not only what the source includes as invitations like those extended to Zakharova and that she doesn't include his appearances to date at POB under this definition. You can argue with her definition; I could argue with Tsiskaridze's of the "world's greatest dancer." There's clearly snobbism bandied about.


And yet don’t you think Tsiskaridze a world-class artist? Doesn't he have a global reputation?

An international reputation is measured by the number of invitations to international companies as a guest star. Nikolai Tsiskaridze cannot boast of even one such invitation.

What about the Paris Opera?

At the Grand Opera he has had only one-off appearances. They were performances with a large contingent of principals from the Bolshoi dancing, people like Svetlana Lunkina, Maria Alexandrova, Aleksandr Volchkov. If the Paris Opera liked Nikolai so much, they would invite him with the same regularity as they invite, say, Svetlana Zakharova. Meanwhile other world companies - Covent Garden, La Scala, ABT, New York City Ballet - haven't invited him. Nor has he been invited to Hamburg or Munich or Berlin.


Below the translation of Tsiskaridze's comments in "Le Figaro," Brown, by the way, includes a translation of the article which quotes Elena Andrienko and her praise of Tsiskaridze.

In the "Le Figaro" interview, Tsiskaridze stated that Vorontsova would be resigning from the Bolshoi.

#47 volcanohunter

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 08:47 AM

On this particular point I can't agree with the source's argument at all. There are plenty of dancers--Aurélie Dupont, Marianela Nuñez, Maria Kowroski and I could go on and on--who don't go globe-trotting much but who don't lack an "international reputation" as a result. This individual may think it's great that Svetlana Zakharova gives only about a third of her performances in Moscow, but I am more inclined to admire Maria Alexandrova for dedicating herself primarily to her home theater. This sort of loyalty shouldn't be besmirched.

#48 Jayne

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 01:10 PM

there is no agreed upon standard of "greatness" but I would agree that Mr. T's dancing is pretty darn great. His diplomacy is a different matter entirely. Had he been appointed ballet AD instead of Mr Filin, I doubt he would have done well with the politics. He had (and perhaps has?) a future as a TV personality / dance judge / presenter.

#49 Amy Reusch

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Posted 18 June 2013 - 08:54 AM

http://m.rbth.ru/pho..._pic_27171.html

Who is the gentleman outweighing Tsiskardze in the poster with the scale, and why is one if the protesters holding up a flower?

#50 volcanohunter

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Posted 18 June 2013 - 09:04 AM

The other man on the scale is the Bolshoi's general director Anatoly Iksanov. http://www.bolshoi.r...anagement/1643/ Can't say anything about the flower.

 

Incidentally, for some reason the Bolshoi press office thought it necessary to point out today in its daily dispatch of news that most of the pro-Tsiskaridze picketers were women. I have no idea what they were trying to imply.



#51 Helene

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Posted 18 June 2013 - 09:15 AM

I think that they are fan girls who support him for his good looks and because he is a TV personality, not because they know anything about ballet. There's nothing like adding sexism to fuel the fire.

#52 Birdsall

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Posted 18 June 2013 - 09:18 AM

The flowers are in Tsiskardze's hands in the photo on the poster she is holding up. She's not holding a flower. There is another copy in someone else's hands and you can see that the flowers are flowers that he is holding in a picture.



#53 Amy Reusch

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Posted 18 June 2013 - 07:50 PM

Thank you, Birdsall, for pointing that out!! (I was mystified!).

#54 Mashinka

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Posted 19 June 2013 - 03:59 AM

I think that they are fan girls who support him for his good looks and because he is a TV personality, not because they know anything about ballet. There's nothing like adding sexism to fuel the fire.

 

In the UK ballet fans are overwhelmingly female and I don't see how it is possible to assume they know nothing about ballet simply by looking at a photo.



#55 Mme. Hermine

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Posted 19 June 2013 - 05:20 AM

I think that they are fan girls who support him for his good looks and because he is a TV personality, not because they know anything about ballet. There's nothing like adding sexism to fuel the fire.

 

I don't think that's what Helene meant at all, just that he has a fan base that doesn't just include ballet fans, but people who like his looks and saw him on TV.



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Posted 19 June 2013 - 06:12 AM

Thank you, Birdsall, for pointing that out!! (I was mystified!).

It is funny how it looked like she was holding the flowers, but then I saw the other person holding the same poster.



#57 Helene

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Posted 19 June 2013 - 06:48 AM

I think that they are fan girls who support him for his good looks and because he is a TV personality, not because they know anything about ballet. There's nothing like adding sexism to fuel the fire.

 
In the UK ballet fans are overwhelmingly female and I don't see how it is possible to assume they know nothing about ballet simply by looking at a photo.
I was responding directly to volcanohunter's question about what the Bolshoi press office was trying to imply.

#58 volcanohunter

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Posted 19 June 2013 - 08:02 AM

Yes, it's funny that the Bolshoi should have tried to dismiss or diminish the pro-Tsiskaridze protesters for being overwhelmingly female precisely because ballet's audience is predominantly female. We also know from official surveys that women constitute the majority of the audience for all performing arts forms in the United States. Even in the case of jazz music, which proportionally speaking has the largest male audience, women still make up the majority of its patrons. So it's unfortunate that the Bolshoi should have employed a sort of fallacious logic here: Tsiskaridze's fans are women; women are hysterical; Tsiskaridze's fans are merely hysterical. Nothing to see here...



#59 Amy Reusch

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Posted 19 June 2013 - 07:05 PM

Is it the same in Russia? I thought demographics might vary.

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 03:18 PM

Volcanohunter wrote:
"There are plenty of dancers ... who don't go globe-trotting much but who don't lack an "international reputation" as a result."
 
I absolutely agree with that. Dancers make their own choices. And Tsiskaridze is selective which doesn't make him a snob.
He always expressed his admiration for Paris Opera Ballet and Mariinsky and guested with them. Someone wrote: "At the Grand Opera he has had only one-off appearances." Well, he danced in three ballets there:
Nureyev's La Bayadere - 3 performances
Petit's Clavigo - invited for 2 performances but was badly injured at the dress rehearsal.
Nureyev's The Nutcracker
 
I know that he had offers from La Scala and other companies but turned them down because the Bolshoi was the most important thing in the world for him.
The invitations, which appealed to him, were from Mariinsky. He danced there in The Legend of Love, Swan Lake, Bluebird and Desire in The Sleeping Beauty, La Sylphide, Manon, Sheherazade, The Rubies, The Diamonds, and Forsythe's ballets. Although the Mariinsky is very conscious of its own style, nevertheless, Tsiskaridze who is an epitome of the Bolshoi style was the only outsider invited to guest with Mariinsky every year and was even offered a special Tsiskaridze gala there.
This was his choice.




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