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#106 pherank

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 12:04 PM

Maria Kochetkova posted this photo of a curtain call with Cornejo to her Facebook page:

 

https://www.facebook...elevant_count=1

 Looks like the link has been changed (don't you just hate that?). I think this must be the one:

https://twitter.com/...9157504/photo/1



#107 Jayne

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 10:48 PM

New NYT profile of Daniil Simkin.  I hadn't put 2 and 2 together before, but given his completely private training with family as a child - where he learned all his "tricks" and then took them to competitions - suddenly the partnering complaints make sense.  

 

The older boys in school get technical training on how to partner, so it's not a new concept when they join companies.  Also, in schools attached to companies, they are more aware of the expectations of joining a company (rehearsing multiple ballets in one day).  

 

 

Is he really 5'8"1/2"? (174 cm)  Somehow I figured he was as short as Baryshnikov's 5'5" (165 cm).  Tall or short, if he doesn't have the upper body strength or plenty of experience partnering - this is going to continue to be a problem.  I wonder if it would be helpful to do an exchange with the Bolshoi or Mariinsky for 6 months, so he could be intensively coached on partnering.  



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Posted 29 June 2013 - 05:41 AM

New NYT profile of Daniil Simkin.  I hadn't put 2 and 2 together before, but given his completely private training with family as a child - where he learned all his "tricks" and then took them to competitions - suddenly the partnering complaints make sense.  

 

The older boys in school get technical training on how to partner, so it's not a new concept when they join companies.  Also, in schools attached to companies, they are more aware of the expectations of joining a company (rehearsing multiple ballets in one day).  

 

 

Is he really 5'8"1/2"? (174 cm)  Somehow I figured he was as short as Baryshnikov's 5'5" (165 cm).  Tall or short, if he doesn't have the upper body strength or plenty of experience partnering - this is going to continue to be a problem.  I wonder if it would be helpful to do an exchange with the Bolshoi or Mariinsky for 6 months, so he could be intensively coached on partnering.  

Still, if his parents had been on top of it, they could have brought in dancers (both male and female) to help Daniil with the partnering in his earlier years. Surely, as dancers themselves, they should have recognized the need for a comprehensive training program if he was to go on to joining a company.  It can't all be about the tricks.  (or can it?).  No dancer should have to learn about partnering in front of an audience.  Unfair to the dancer and certainly unfair for any partners and the audience.



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Posted 29 June 2013 - 06:30 AM

New NYT profile of Daniil Simkin.  I hadn't put 2 and 2 together before, but given his completely private training with family as a child - where he learned all his "tricks" and then took them to competitions - suddenly the partnering complaints make sense.  

 

The older boys in school get technical training on how to partner, so it's not a new concept when they join companies.  Also, in schools attached to companies, they are more aware of the expectations of joining a company (rehearsing multiple ballets in one day).  

 

 

This discussion reminds me of interviews with Marcelo Gomes, who started working on partnering at an early age in Brazil. Here's an interview from 2003 that discusses that: http://balletalert.c...iews/Gomes.html

 

 


One of the things that is so noticeable about your dancing is your partnering. Could you talk about that aspect?

I actually started partnering very early, in Brazil, when I could barely lift, so I have been trying to put girls on their feet for a very long time! We also had a lot of partnering work at Harid. Surprisingly, partnering wasn’t that important in Paris. They waited until the last year in the school to give partnering class, so I was really much more advanced than the other boys.

 

Elsewhere, I've seen discussions of the fact that, at least in many (most?) American ballet classes, there are so few boys that they learn how to partner many different types of girls. As others have noted, it seems strange that Simkin's dancer parents didn't anticipate this during his "homeschooling" in ballet.



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Posted 29 June 2013 - 07:52 AM

I just want to say that for some reason the Gomes interview says interviewed by Marcelo Gomes.  In fact, I did the interview, he wasn't talking to himself!  Mary Cargill



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Posted 29 June 2013 - 07:58 AM

I just want to say that for some reason the Gomes interview says interviewed by Marcelo Gomes.  In fact, I did the interview, he wasn't talking to himself!  Mary Cargill

Thanks for correcting that - it did seem odd.



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Posted 02 July 2013 - 08:06 PM

Is he really 5'8"1/2"? (174 cm)  Somehow I figured he was as short as Baryshnikov's 5'5" (165 cm).

 

Yes. It is perhaps Daniil's slightness that makes him appear shorter. Baryshnikov has been reported to be 5'6", 5'7", and even 5'8". Since I've never stood next to him, I don't know his actual height, but I think it's more than 5'5".




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