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[California]

I just visited the Ardani website and noticed casting for 2012 for Vasiliev and Osipova. Looks like they will be dancing exclusively with ABT this spring at Lincoln Center and won't be crossing the Plaza to do anything with the Mikhailovsky Ballet:
http://www.ardani.co...urs-osipova.php
http://www.ardani.co...rs-vasiliev.php

Has anybody seen any casting for the New York Mikhailovsky performances?

[mussel]

California, on 23 January 2012 - 07:22 AM, said:

Another interesting tidbit on that site: casting for 2012 for Vasiliev and Osipova. Looks like they will be dancing exclusively with ABT this spring at Lincoln Center and won't be crossing the Plaza to do anything with the Mikhailovsky Ballet:
http://www.ardani.co...urs-osipova.php
http://www.ardani.co...rs-vasiliev.php

Has anybody seen any casting for the New York Mikhailovsky performances?

It could be that Mikailovsky has not finalized the NY castings yet.  I can't imagine MB's crown jewels being absent from the all important NY tour.  However if you look ABT & MB schedules, if Osipova was casted in MB mixed program and Giselle, she would have to dance at least 2 consecutive nights, it'd be tough.  But Osipova is clear during the MB Sleeping Beauty run.

[abatt]

Frequently, contracts contain a non compete provision which prohibits an artist (dancer, opera singer) from appearing with another company in the same city during the time period for which they have contracted with a particular organization.  The contracts that Vasiliev and Osipova signed w. ABT might prohibit them from appearing with any other ballet company in New York City while they are performing with ABT.  We'll see.

[Birdsall]

abatt, on 24 January 2012 - 07:48 PM, said:

Frequently, contracts contain a non compete provision which prohibits an artist (dancer, opera singer) from appearing with another company in the same city during the time period for which they have contracted with a particular organization.  The contracts that Vasiliev and Osipova signed w. ABT might prohibit them from appearing with any other ballet company in New York City while they are performing with ABT.  We'll see.

That would explain it! I hate non-compete contracts. I think it is an attempt to "own" people, which, in my opinion, is ridiculous. I worked part-time years ago for a Pilates studio and was actually certified to teach it, and when the owner decided to make us sign non-compete contracts, I quit. I don't believe in it unless it is the type of job where you have access to top secret info that would totally destroy the business (like being a top dog at Apple or Microsoft) b/c you know all the secrets. Pilates and/or ballet are careers in which anyone can obtain access to the knowledge. No secrets to steal and destroy a company by working elsewhere, so I think non-compete clauses are simply pure greed on company's part.
By the way, the owner of the Pilates studio wanted us to sign that we could not work for any direct competitor and included a list of competitors which named every Pilates studio and gym in the entire county. I think that is crazy. So I quit. I bought my own studio reformer for my house and I keep looking at it and wishing I would get back into it, but I like yoga more and do that.

[ksk04]

Bart Birdsall, on 25 January 2012 - 05:47 AM, said:

abatt, on 24 January 2012 - 07:48 PM, said:

Frequently, contracts contain a non compete provision which prohibits an artist (dancer, opera singer) from appearing with another company in the same city during the time period for which they have contracted with a particular organization.  The contracts that Vasiliev and Osipova signed w. ABT might prohibit them from appearing with any other ballet company in New York City while they are performing with ABT.  We'll see.

That would explain it! I hate non-compete contracts. I think it is an attempt to "own" people, which, in my opinion, is ridiculous. I worked part-time years ago for a Pilates studio and was actually certified to teach it, and when the owner decided to make us sign non-compete contracts, I quit. I don't believe in it unless it is the type of job where you have access to top secret info that would totally destroy the business (like being a top dog at Apple or Microsoft) b/c you know all the secrets. Pilates and/or ballet are careers in which anyone can obtain access to the knowledge. No secrets to steal and destroy a company by working elsewhere, so I think non-compete clauses are simply pure greed on company's part.
By the way, the owner of the Pilates studio wanted us to sign that we could not work for any direct competitor and included a list of competitors which named every Pilates studio and gym in the entire county. I think that is crazy. So I quit. I bought my own studio reformer for my house and I keep looking at it and wishing I would get back into it, but I like yoga more and do that.

Well that's a slightly different situation, no? The knowledge of ballet isn't at question, but the ability to draw people into buying tickets is.  ABT presumably booked Osipova and Vasiliev for the MET season under the impression they would exclusively present them for the summer of 2012. Vasiliev and Osipova's move to the Mik changes that--no question. If they are to perform at theaters across the street from each other at the same time it would (presumably) draw audience away from ABT. I would completely understand ABT's position for having a noncompete clause in this situation, but Osipova and Vasiliev's sudden move does put both companies in an awkward position, because the contract at ABT would have been drawn up before the move to the Mik happened. Hopefully ABTs lawyers didn't mess around, as I doubt the Mik wants to do a major tour w/o its newly crowned jewels.

[Birdsall]

ksk04, on 25 January 2012 - 09:42 AM, said:

Bart Birdsall, on 25 January 2012 - 05:47 AM, said:

abatt, on 24 January 2012 - 07:48 PM, said:

Frequently, contracts contain a non compete provision which prohibits an artist (dancer, opera singer) from appearing with another company in the same city during the time period for which they have contracted with a particular organization.  The contracts that Vasiliev and Osipova signed w. ABT might prohibit them from appearing with any other ballet company in New York City while they are performing with ABT.  We'll see.

That would explain it! I hate non-compete contracts. I think it is an attempt to "own" people, which, in my opinion, is ridiculous. I worked part-time years ago for a Pilates studio and was actually certified to teach it, and when the owner decided to make us sign non-compete contracts, I quit. I don't believe in it unless it is the type of job where you have access to top secret info that would totally destroy the business (like being a top dog at Apple or Microsoft) b/c you know all the secrets. Pilates and/or ballet are careers in which anyone can obtain access to the knowledge. No secrets to steal and destroy a company by working elsewhere, so I think non-compete clauses are simply pure greed on company's part.
By the way, the owner of the Pilates studio wanted us to sign that we could not work for any direct competitor and included a list of competitors which named every Pilates studio and gym in the entire county. I think that is crazy. So I quit. I bought my own studio reformer for my house and I keep looking at it and wishing I would get back into it, but I like yoga more and do that.

Well that's a slightly different situation, no? The knowledge of ballet isn't at question, but the ability to draw people into buying tickets is.  ABT presumably booked Osipova and Vasiliev for the MET season under the impression they would exclusively present them for the summer of 2012. Vasiliev and Osipova's move to the Mik changes that--no question. If they are to perform at theaters across the street from each other at the same time it would (presumably) draw audience away from ABT. I would completely understand ABT's position for having a noncompete clause in this situation, but Osipova and Vasiliev's sudden move does put both companies in an awkward position, because the contract at ABT would have been drawn up before the move to the Mik happened. Hopefully ABTs lawyers didn't mess around, as I doubt the Mik wants to do a major tour w/o its newly crowned jewels.

I agree that this is different, but I think as long as it is a different ballet I would go to their ABT and their Mik performances, but maybe that's just me. Even if it were the same ballet I would probably go to one of each to compare and contrast them in different productions (sometimes slightly different choreography). But maybe it would dilute the audience (ticket sales). So maybe they do need to have a non-compete. Also, now that I think of it, famous "stars" could hypothetically put on a show of themselves doing different pieces while in NY and that would sell out and people might decide to just see them in that and not go to ABT if the person is less interested in full-length story ballets.

[YID]

They just posted a change to the tour -different dates (leant from a Russian site)
http://davidhkochthe...moreinfoMB.html

[California]

YID, on 06 February 2012 - 08:25 AM, said:

They just posted a change to the tour -different dates (leant from a Russian site)
http://davidhkochthe...moreinfoMB.html

Fascinating! The next question: Will "no-compete" provisions in the ABT contracts with Osipova-Vishneva-Vasiliev apply to these new dates? The ABT Met season ends July 7. The POB season at the Met is July 11-22. So it's quite convenient that Mikhailovsky will now be July 24-August 5, isn't it?

[Natalia]

These words also piqued my interest:

The Company is planning a new and exciting program which we expect to unveil sometime next week.

So are they possibly changing the originally-annouced offerings? It sounds as if the Duato mixed bill is still on but no mention of SB or Giselle, except that they show a photo of the huntings group in that ballet.

[bingham]

Natalia, on 06 February 2012 - 09:23 AM, said:

These words also piqued my interest: The Company is planning a new and exciting program which we expect to unveil sometime next week. So are they possibly changing the originally-annouced offerings? It sounds as if the Duato mixed bill is still on but no mention of SB or Giselle, except that they show a photo of the huntings group in that ballet.

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       Hoping Laurencia will be added to the program.

[jamesb]

Mikhailovsky dates have changed. I already bought for 5 perfs and have the tickets. Koch box office called me last week to say the dates are now 7-23 thru 8-3 and that they may or may not be dancing Giselle, Beauty, rep night. They say they will call again.

[Jayne]

I think the Mik deserves its own thread, rather than being lumped into the "other" category

[seattle_dancer]

jamesb, on 06 February 2012 - 10:43 AM, said:

Mikhailovsky dates have changed. I already bought for 5 perfs and have the tickets. Koch box office called me last week to say the dates are now 7-23 thru 8-3 and that they may or may not be dancing Giselle, Beauty, rep night. They say they will call again.

jamesb - you are lucky they called and informed you .  I found out last night on my own, much to my shock.  In Dec I was in NY and bought tix to Giselle and All Duato, while considering the ABT schedule so I could see Osipova.  I thought I was so smart grabbing great seats and avoiding online fees.  Called DHKT today and they said they will not call anymore until the Mik finalizes it's schedule.  They did say the Mik is not giving refunds but since I live in Seattle I may qualify.  Hope to find out more on this site!

[Lcg]

Engagement cancelled.

[California]

Lcg, on 08 February 2012 - 02:10 PM, said:

Engagement cancelled.

I see that Mikhailovsky has disappeared entirely from the Koch site: http://www.davidhkoc...org/events.html
Did they issue a press release or make an announcement somewhere else?