Dance in America: Choreography by Balanchine DVDout of synch sound...?
Posted 17 August 2010 - 07:08 PM
Posted 17 August 2010 - 08:35 PM
The Balanchine Celebration, Parts I and II, was shown on PBS in 1993, on the 10th anniversary of his death. According to the Balanchine site, it was released commercially by Nonesuch.
I don't know if it's still for sale, but perhaps used copies will show up on e-Bay
From the Balanchine.org site:
The Balanchine Celebration, Part One
The Balanchine Library. Nonesuch, 1996.
Selections from live performances (1993) at the New York State Theater. With members of the New York City Ballet and guest artists. Includes Scherzo à la Russe and excerpts from Apollo, Square Dance, Theme and Variations, Union Jack, Vienna Waltzes, and Walpurgisnacht Ballet.
The Balanchine Celebration, Part Two
The Balanchine Library. Nonesuch, 1996.
Selections from live performances (1993) at the New York State Theater. With members of the New York City Ballet and guest artists. Includes excerpts from Agon, Stars and Stripes, Western Symphony, and Who Cares?
Part 2 ended with the vodka toast with Martins, Kirstein, and Robbins served vodka by Baryshnikov.
An entirely different release is still available on DVD, the two-part Balanchine documentary first aired on PBS in 1984. From the Balanchine site:
A two-part documentary film telecast on the Dance in America series on May 28 and June 4, 1984. Includes excerpts from more than thirty Balanchine ballets, including appearances by him as a Tartar Nomad in Jealousy, in the film Dark Red Roses, in 1929 and as Herr Drosselmeyer in The Nutcracker in 1958.
The two programs have very different selections, although nothing is complete. For the Balanchine Celebration, everything is in excerpts, usually the last movement or two.
Posted 24 June 2012 - 08:40 AM
Thanks also for the info on Davidsbuendlertaenze. See...I'm building my own Balanchine collection .
Apologies for bumping this thread, but I don't think this question was clearly answered here: does the sound synchronization problem affect both Balanchine Nonesuch DVDs, or just the first volume (with Tzigane, Four T's, etc.). Thanks so much!
Posted 24 June 2012 - 07:28 PM
I haven't had this experience for too long, I guess, even though the DVDs are right here. Ballet of this quality, both choreography and performance, are not to be seen onstage these days, as far as I am concerned, and for my money, you'd be getting a good deal, SimonA, even if the rest of the disc happened to be unwatchable, especially considering the relative prices of DVDs and tickets these days. I think this one ballet is worth "the price of admission" (unless, of course, like a friend of mine, you cannot abide Gluck).
Posted 25 June 2012 - 11:14 AM
Thanks so much for taking the time to re-watch Chaconne and report back. So generous. You've almost convinced me that I should just go ahead and order the DVD ... though if you do have the time to watch the rest of the DVD, I'd, of course, love to get your thoughts.
I recently had the chance to watch several NYCB videos from Balanchine's day at NYPL, and, you're right -- there's nothing like it to be seen onstage these days.
Posted 27 June 2012 - 05:54 AM
Thanks so much for taking the time to re-watch Chaconne and report back. So generous. ...
No, SimonA, thank you for prodding me to watch that video! Experiences like that do my spirit good! POB is here this week, though, so I expect to continue my "Balanchine's Balanchine" festival next week.
In the meantime, though, thinking about the synchronization problems of some of these videos, I wonder whether it might now be possible for computer-adept fans to correct a copy for themselves. I've read of using video-editing software where exactly this problem may occur and be corrected. Keeping legality in mind, I'm no intellectual-property lawyer, but I think someone who obtains this kind of material legally is entitled to make a copy of it for their own use. (If they distribute it to others, questions come up.)
Are there any amateur video restorers lurking out there who will chime in here?
Posted 27 June 2012 - 09:43 AM
Next week I will audition as a super for POB Giselle at the Kennedy Center. Wish me luck.
Posted 27 June 2012 - 11:42 AM
It can be done very easily. The process goes as follows:rip the original video segments from DVD, separate the audio and video tracks in an editor, resync them by the correct time offset and finally burn the corrected files to a DVD for your musical enjoyment. I've tried to do this with a Rubies recording that I have (off the air from Dance in America), but I shuddered once or twice at the thought of dictating where on the beat is to Patricia McBride.
It's probably less musically dangerous with the Choreography by Balanchine DVDs, as we could use the original, correctly synchronized, video tapes as a quality check.
Posted 27 June 2012 - 12:27 PM
Posted 27 June 2012 - 08:38 PM
Posted 27 June 2012 - 09:28 PM
It's a bit of a headache to edit .VOB files on Mac OS X. I'll outline the steps below...
Handbrake is not desirable for the first step. Handbrake compresses any video that it extracts, which you don't want as it'll look horrible once burned back to DVD. Instead I'd recommend something like Mac the Ripper to extricate the uncompressed MPEG2 contents of the DVD to a folder.
Unfortunately iMovie HD (also known as '06) does not directly recognize VOB files for editing, so there's an intermediate step to take up more of your precious hard disk space. You'll need Quicktime's MPEG-2 playback component (20$, argh) for importing, or it's already available if you own DVD Studio Pro or Final Cut Pro.
Download MPEG Streamclip, then convert the desired VOB clip to DV. Then, import as usual into iMovie, split your source into audio and video tracks, and play "match the musical accent with the leg" as needed. You can then burn the resulting DV via iDVD to a new disk.
However, if you want a little more complication in your life...
Export the edited DV from iMovie and open it once again in Streamclip. The application should be able to convert the DV clip back to .VOB (or MPEG-2, as it's called). If everything is done correctly, then you can simply replace the original VOB file with the new VOB file, and then use LiquidCD to burn a copy of the complete modified DVD, complete with the original menus!
Well, now that I've said all that, I'll sit in this corner and wait patiently for my copper friends.
Posted 30 June 2012 - 10:55 AM
(Oh: "copper friends"?)
Posted 30 June 2012 - 06:22 PM
Anyone with first-hand knowledge here care to agree or disagree?
Posted 30 June 2012 - 08:21 PM
It's hard to disagree with both these ladies, and I won't, but I would offer that seeing even a dim reflection of a dancer of Farrell's rare caliber can still be a changing experience.
Posted 21 July 2012 - 11:20 AM
On the other hand, in fairness to our community, it should be said that the sound on the VHS tape editions is not only in synch (in synch with a softer, fuzzier image, that is), it's sweeter and has more body than the thinner, piercing sound from the DVDs. *sigh* (If you haven't explored the audio controls on your TV for a while, this may be the time: For these DVDs, I move the treble setting down halfway from neutral, the bass setting up 2/3 of the way from neutral. As with any meal, season to your taste, and bon appetit!)
Edited by Jack Reed, 21 July 2012 - 08:35 PM.
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