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A Swan Lake with all of Tchaikovsky's music?Does a ballet company use ALL of Tchaikovsky's music for Swan Lake


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#16 BallettomanefromCanada

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 07:39 PM

A while back, I asked this question. Someone gave me an answer that John Neumeier's version entitled "The Illusions of Swan Lake" contained most of the music. I finally found a copy of this version. Here are the music sequences of Tchaikovsky;s music in the order that they were performed by the Hamburg Ballet Company in 2001.
SWAN LAKE (Illusions of “Swan Lake”) Anna Polikarpova & Jirí Bubenicek
Hamburg Ballet / Choreography by John Neumeier / Alexandra Danilova (Act II)
No. 29. Scène finale (Andante - Allegro agitato - Alla breve - Moderato maestoso) (Partial) (Title Music)
Introduction (Moderato assai)
No. 1. Scène (Allegro giusto)
No. 19. Pas de six: c. Variation 1(Allegro)
No. 2. Valse
No. 3. Scène (Allegro moderato)
No. 4. Pas de trois: I. Intrada (Allegro)
No. 4. Pas de trois: III. Allegro simplice - Presto
No. 4. Pas de trois: IV. Moderato
*** Danse des cygnes (Valse bluette) (Opus 72/No.11, orchestrated by Drigo)
No. 4. Pas de trois: VI. Coda (Allegro vivace)
No. 4. Pas de trois: II. Andante sostenuto
*** Scene (Un poco di Chopin) (Opus 72/No. 15, orchestrated by Drigo)
*** Numéro supplémentaire: NOTE: Inserted for Sobeshchanskaya - 1877:
Pas de deux: a. Introduction; b. Moderato - Andante
No. 7. Sujet
No. 8. Danse des coupes (Tempo di polacca)
Souvenir d'un lieu cher No. 1 (Méditation), Op. 42
ACT II:
No. 10. Scène (Moderato)
No. 11. Scène (Allegro moderato - Allegro vivo)
No. 12. Scène (Allegro)
No. 13. Danses des cygnes: a. Tempo di valse
No. 13. Danses des cygnes: e. Pas d’action (Andante - Andante non troppo - Allegro)
No. 13. Danses des cygnes: d. Allegro moderato
No. 13. Danses des cygnes: f. Tempo di valse
No. 13. Danses des cygnes: b. Moderato assai - Molto più mosso
No. 13. Danses des cygnes: g. Coda (Allegro vivo)
No. 14. Scène (Moderato)
ACT III:
No. 15. Allegro giusto
No. 17. Scène (la sortie des invités et la valse) (Minus the Intro)
No. 16. Danses du corps de ballet et des nains
No. 20. Danse hongroise - Czardas
No. 21. Danse espagnole
No. 22. Danse napolitaine
*** Numéro supplémentaire: Danse russe (NOTE: Written for Karpakova - 1877)
No. 5. Pas de deux: I. Tempo di valse
No. 5. Pas de deux: II. Andante - Allegro - Molto più mosso
Pas de deux: Variation II: Odile (from Opus 72 for piano - No. 12 L’Espiègle) (orchestrated by Drigo)
No. 5. Pas de deux: IV. Coda (Allegro vivace)
No. 24. Scène (Allegro - Valse - Allegro vivo)
ACT IV:
No. 25. Entr’acte (Moderato)
Hamlet, Entr'acte (Elégie). Andante non troppo (Op. 67a/No.9)
No. 29. Scène finale (Andante - Allegro agitato - Alla breve - Moderato maestoso)
Musical numbers missing:
No. 4. Pas de trois: V. Allegro
No. 5. Pas de deux: III. Tempo di valse
No. 6. Pas d’action (Andantino quasi moderato - Allegro)
No. 9. Finale (Andante)
No. 13. Danses des cygnes: c. Danse des cygnes (Tempo di valse)
No. 18. Scène (Allegro - Allegro giusto)
No. 19. Pas de six: a. Intrada; b. Moderato assai; d. Variation 2 (Andante con moto); e. Variation 3 (Moderato);
f. Variation 4 (Allegro); g.Variation 5 (Moderato - Allegro simplice); h.Coda (Allegro molto vivace)
No. 23. Mazurka
No. 26. Scène (Allegro non troppo)
No. 27. Danse des petits cygnes
No. 28. Scène (Allegro agitato)
Pas de deux: c. Variation 1 (Allegro moderato); d. Variation 2 (Allegro) e.Coda (Allegro molto vivace)
(*** Numéro supplémentaire: NOTE: Inserted for Sobeshchanskaya - 1877)

Sadly, as you can see, there are quite a few musical numbers not used in this version. I guess that the quest is still on for that illusive version of ALL of Tchaikovsky's music.

#17 cubanmiamiboy

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Posted 12 November 2011 - 07:28 AM

The only recording I know of all the original score-(1877)-is the Dutoit, which is the only one I own. I never liked Drigo's orchestrations for the 4th Act anyway-("Un poco di Chopin" and "Valse Bluette"). Act IV looks much nicer and comprised in its original '77 musical scheme.



#18 Cygnet

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Posted 12 November 2011 - 11:40 AM

The only recording I know of collectig all of the original score-(1877)-is the Dutoit, which is the only one I own. I never liked Drigo's orchestrations for the 4th Act anyway-("Un poco di Chopin" and "Valse Bluette"). The Fourth Act looks much nicer and comprised in its original '77 musical scheme.

I'm ITA with you that the Dutoit is a very good version and that the music demands the tragic ending that the composer envisioned. The tragic ending is right there in the overture. There are other good recordings such as Andre Previn's London Symphony Orchestra recording from the early 1970s on EMI, and John Lanchbery's Philharmonia Orchestra recording from the early 1980s (1982 - ?), which were both very fine. Lanchbery's tempi was superior to Previn's as he conducted as if her were putting the music under the feet of dancers. I don't think these are available anymore. Ermler's treatment with the Royal Opera House Orchestra is also quite good but doesn't employ every last repeat (as Previn's did). I recall that Previn's Act 3 waltz for the six princesses ran close to 10 minutes, because there were six fanfares plus the main theme's repeats, not just the one in most productions and recordings. There were no cuts in Previn's early 70s recording.

Nureyev's version for the Paris Opera Ballet uses most of the score, as does the Stanislavsky (Bourmeister), the Bolshoi, and the Mikhailovsky (Messerer). For example, at Le Garnier, the Act 1 waltz is totally complete as is the 4th act. They omit the Russian dance in Act 3 except for the Drigo scoring for the Odile pdd, and Odile's variation. The Bolshoi omits the bulk of the Act 3 Pas de Six, but uses the oboe solo for Odile's variation, and as a previous poster has noted the Stan uses it as well. The Stan uses the coda for the pas de six for the Odile pdd coda. At the Paris Opera Ballet and the Bolshoi the variation before that is used for Rothbart's dance at the ball. Tchaikovsky wrote so much music for his first ballet score, (without guidance from the original choreographer), it seems that he wrote it by the yard. As a result this masterpiece remains a treasure trove for Artistic Directors and choreographers to choose from, whether they opt for the traditional staging (Petipa/Ivanov), or non-traditional staging.

The Russian State Symphony Orchestra, conducted by Dmitri Yablonsky on Naxos is a very good performance, but not as dramatic as Lanchbery's older treatment. Of these two, the Bolshoi's Svetlanov, also with the Russian State Symphony Orchestra IMO is the platinum standard recording if you want the entire score. The Drigo 1895 edition, or "the performance score" on cd has only two interpretations out there; Victor Fedotov and Valery Gergiev's both with the Mariinsky Orchestra. The latter was the soundtrack for the company's most recent "Swan Lake" dvd (2006) and is IMO, inferior to Fedotov's interpretation (on JVC), especially the final pdd ('Un poco di Chopin'). Fedotov's interpretation is the 5 star performance of the 1895 version. It also includes the Russian Dance from Act 3 and the original Dance of the Swans (as a supplement to the Valse Bluette). Unfortunately, Fedotov didn't insert the penultimate final bars from the 1877 score in the finale. Had he done so it would have been the master-stroke on an already superlative performance.

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 10:20 PM

I suppose I'm reviving a dead thread here, but for me the perfect Swan Lake would be a combination of the traditional Petipa/Ivanov/Drigo and Bourmeister versions. Here's my preferred ordering of the lovely score when I am listening to it on CD. I was able to construct this playlist mixing and matching the Previn (LSO version) CD which follows the original 1877 score to the tee and the Fedotov (Mariinsky Theatre Symphony Orchestra) CD which follows P/I/D scoring.

Act 1 - Introduction (overture, Odette turned into swan, etc.)

Act 1 - Scene (entrance of Siegfried)

Act 1 - PDT (I, III, IV, V, VI) following P/I/D ordering with the omitted andante sostenuto, even though I also find III - Variation 1 and V - Variation 3 to be weak. This part of the score I skip over the most when listening.

Act 1 - Scene (entrance of Queen Mother, tells Siegfried he needs to marry, etc.)

Act 1 - "Black Swan pdd" waltz and andante following Bourmeister

Act 1 - Pas d'action, subject, dance of goblets (my favorite part of Act 1)

(Bourmeister is commonly criticized for having Act I being too long and Act IV being too short and for me I like omitting the Act I waltz champêtre when listening -- even the edited version in most productions -- to avoid having two similar waltzes, even though parts of it are lovely. There's definitely a trade-off here though, since vice versa if you put in the waltz champêtre then you lose the Black Swan pdd music, or suffer redundancy. With the dance of goblets there's already an awesome ensemble corps dance so I don't feel so bad).

Act 2 - Scene (Moderato - entr'acte)

Act 2 - Scene (Allegro moderato - allegro vivo, arrival of Siegfried at lake, entrance of Odette, etc.)

Act 2 - Scene (Allegro, entrance of swans)

Act 2 - Grand pas des cygnes (I - Swan Waltz, V - White Adagio with Drigo modified ending, IV - 4 Swans/Cygnets, VI - 3 Swans (A major version up a semitone), II - Odette variation, VII - Coda), this ordering used in Bourmeister and P/I/D

Act 2 - Scene (Moderato, swan exit due to Von Rothbart spell, etc.)

Act 3 - Scene (Back at the court)

Omit dance of guests and dwarfs following P/I/D but not Bourmeister, I don't find this sequence with the jester particularly compelling

Act 3 - Entrance and Waltz of Special Guests (edited version in both P/I/D and Bourmeister, entrance and introduction of brides, etc.)

Act 3 - Scene (Odile's entrance)

Act 3 - Spanish/Neapolitan/Hungarian/Mazurka (the usual order)

Act 3 - Tchaikovsky/Sobeshchenskaya pdd + Variation I (Siegfried Variation), pas de six Variation V (oboe - Odile Variation), pas de six Coda instead of Black Swan Coda following Bourmeister

Act 3 - Scene (Odile deception revealed, Odette image shown to Siegfried, etc.)

Act 4 - Entr'acte

Act 4 - Scene (Allegro ma non troppo, back at the lake, ensemble swan choreography)

Act 4 - Dance of the Little Swans (Moderato, I hate that P/I/D deletes this in favor of the orchestrated Valse Bluette, so Bourmeister wins)

Act 4 - Scene (Allego agitato - Allegro vivace, Odette's re-entrance at lake + despair)

Act 4 - Finale (Andante, Siegfried re-entrance at lake + despair)

Act 4 - pas de six Variation II moved from Act 3 used as Odette/Siegfried reconciliation following Bourmeister (I also prefer this versus the orchestrated un poco di Chopin)

Act 4 - Rest of Finale (struggle with Von Rothbart, apotheosis, etc.)




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