innopac Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 Here is a rough translation of what Lucette Aldous said when talking of Nureyev and his absolute commitment to every detail of a production. "To me he had three brains in his head.... On stage he would see something out of the corner of his eye and suddenly he is saying, 'that conductor is not playing good music tonight... and just look at corps de ballet... they sit on their asses....' By the time we got around the front he said, 'look at that dreadful light up there -- I will kill stage manager....'" From the documentary Three Ballerinas: a celebration of the lives of three remarkable Australian dancers [Australian Broadcasting Corporation, 2002] Interviews with Lucette Aldous, Marilyn Jones and Marilyn Rowe. It is unclear from the interview if these outbursts, while Nureyev and Aldous danced, occurred during the filming of Don Quixote or during a live performance. Would professional dancers talk to each other on stage during live productions? Link to comment
glebb Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 When I was in Gronigen for the Diaghilev Festival I was greatly dismayed by the sight of the gorgeous Kirov ladies leaning over to talk to each other in the bows of Firebird. Link to comment
papeetepatrick Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 I think I see Patricia McBride talking to Reid Olsen in that rather grainy video 'The Art of the Classical Pas de Deux' made in 1986 in Los Angeles. They're doing 'Tchaikovsky Pas de Deux', and he's not really the ideal partner, or it looks somewhat as though we're getting a filmed rehearsal (even if 4th or 5th or so), so in this case it could have been making the best of a not great situation. Would be interested if someone else noticed this, as I don't remember seeing it in live performance, although it may well have been going on. Link to comment
pj Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 My dd has danced in a few professional productions and she says that there is definitely a great deal of chatter going on amongst the professional dancers while the company is on stage. And while some of it is not very nice, some of it is hysterically funny; she says sometimes it is a true test of self-control to keep from bursting out laughing. Link to comment
Mel Johnson Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 Russian dancers seem to do that all the time. In the Old Met, this could be deadly, as that stage was so "live" that anything you said onstage could be plainly heard in the audience. Sometimes it was covered by music, and sometimes it wasn't. Link to comment
Hans Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 I've seen it happen just about everywhere. Link to comment
4mrdncr Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 Of course things get whispered back and forth if necessary, re placement, re timing, re miscellaneous. But my favorite caught-on-video is the Macmillan R&J balcony pdd with Ferri & Corella... There is a LOT of interaction going on throughout, especially just after THE lift midway, when, as she is being lowered Ferri is definately asking a "what do you think about...?" of Corella, and for a second you see his absolute shocked "huh?" in response before he acquiesces to her experience. Or at least until the next discussion, (difference of opinion?) which occurs just before that quick peck he gives her before those running diagonals at the end--to which her reaction (anticipated or not) is spot-on, making the runs into his arms more impressive for pausing to consider first. Personally, I consider this one of the best performances of this pdd, though taken faster than most, and maybe it was all that spontaneous (or not?) soto voce 'coaching' occuring in performance that contributed? Link to comment
dirac Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Gore Vidal said in his first memoir that the back and forth between Alicia Markova and Anton Dolin onstage could be quite vigorous: (“Put me down! It’s the third beat!” “Since when could you count?”) Etc..... Link to comment
stinger784 Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Sometimes it is the only thing that gets us through a season of The Nutcracker. Talking happens all the time. During those long stretches you need something to occupy your time when you have done a show over 200 times in your professional career. So a ballet that a dancer dreads doing becomes more of an experience each time one does it. I wish I could tell you what we talk about, but that would take away from the mystery of the theatre. Link to comment
Mel Johnson Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 They run something like this, from recollections of actual onstage conversation: "Where do you want to eat tonight?" "I don't know, maybe Chinese?" "Ew, no, did that last night!" "Japanese? I know a little place in Chelsea that'll be open." "Yes, that's it! Considering this show, I need sake. A LOT of sake. "OK, you and me and Bob and Sue. Let's leave through the front of the house." "Good idea! Will we have to sit on the floor?" "Not if we don't want to." And so on.... Link to comment
Hans Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 The most onstage conversation probably occurs during those "crowd scenes" in the big Petipa ballets, and as stinger784 mentioned, mostly during the party scene in the Nutcracker. There are, after all, only so many times you can mime, "What a lovely doll!" before it starts to look and feel stilted and routine. Link to comment
bart Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 They run something like this, from recollections of actual onstage conversation:"Where do you want to eat tonight?" "I don't know, maybe Chinese?" "Ew, no, did that last night!" "Japanese? I know a little place in Chelsea that'll be open." "Yes, that's it! Considering this show, I need sake. A LOT of sake. [ ... ] And so on.... Mel, I'll never watch one of those big-company royal court scenes again without thinking of this. I always wondered what those bored looking courtiers, sitting or standing with nothing to do, were really up to. Link to comment
Hans Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 There's also the meaner, more gossipy type of onstage conversation in which the dancers dissect the performers' technique (but of course only when s/he is on the other side of the stage). Link to comment
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