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Most memorable Swan Lake endings... ?good or bad


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#16 MinkusPugni

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Posted 25 December 2008 - 11:52 PM

I love the ending of Sir Peter Wright's production of the Swedish Royal Ballet where after they drown, Benno fishes Siegfried's body from the lake. The final tableux is very bitter-sweet and incredibly moving.

#17 Mel Johnson

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 05:47 AM

Me, I keep waiting for them to decide to forget the whole thing, jump into a limo, and head for the baccarat tables in Monte Carlo.

#18 EricMontreal22

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Posted 16 January 2009 - 04:14 AM

I'm cofnused--that Crnako article makes it sound like him havign an unhappy ending was a first--but didn't they die in all the Russian versions pre revolution? Does the Bolshoi have a sad or happy ending? I don't mind the Sergyev/Kirov version except that happy ending--even as a kid I knew that Swan Lake was meant to be sad... Shessh! :(

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Posted 16 January 2009 - 05:46 AM

in haste and in brief, the happy ending(s) to SWAN LAKE came into being in Soviet Russia.
certainly per-revolution, russian productions, employed the tragic ending w/ apotheosis as given in both the original and 1895 librettos.
Vaganova's 1930s production used a happy ending.
later, in the 1960s?, when Grigorovich proposed to re-instate the original ending in Soviet Russia, he was prevailed upon by the authorities not to do so.
i assume earlier Messere, post-Gorsky production for the Bolshoi also presented a happy ending.
too bad Demidov's monograph on SWAN LAKE has never been translated into english.

#20 EricMontreal22

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Posted 16 January 2009 - 06:01 AM

So does Girgorovich's current Bolshoi production use the happy ending? I always wondered why Sawn Lake had to have a happy ending in the Soviet era but Bayadere, Giselle, etc, never did...

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Posted 17 November 2013 - 09:31 AM

I like the Paris Opera Ballet ending, where Rothbart kills Siegfried and takes Odette away. The scene really suits the music.



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Posted 17 November 2013 - 10:14 AM

I always wondered why Sawn Lake had to have a happy ending in the Soviet era but Bayadere, Giselle, etc, never did...


Communist doctrine did not dictate a "happy ending" but a resolution in this world. Communists were atheists who did not believe in a Christian afterlife where one could find happiness. Odette and Siegfried could not find happiness in an after life, but only during this life, if at all. Much of the challenge to Communism over the years came from the Christian religion in the Soviet Union and the nations of the Warsaw Pact who rejected atheism.

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 07:20 PM

There is another great performance by the Paris Opera Ballet, with Agnes Letitsu and Jose Martinez.   This is rapidly becoming my very favorite version.  She flies off in the end with Rothbart but who cares, because the elegance and class act by all is what counts.  Check it out  Swan Lake: Paris Opera Ballet 2005



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Posted 17 January 2016 - 06:40 AM

My favorite is in the Kirov video with Yevteyeva-Markovsk where he  lifts Odette, then music changes for the walk/carry [music fits S/O not Rothbart], Siegfried throws Von Rothbart at 2:38 from a lift.  [I would like to see the Bolshoi brides instead of the Mariinsky character dances.]  In some versions is that beautiful music [Mariinsky long lift] used for Rothbart?



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Posted 17 January 2016 - 09:42 PM

ABT's. It is the best rendition of the double suicide original version.

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Posted 20 January 2016 - 12:01 PM

ABT's. It is the best rendition of the double suicide original version.


Agreed. SL must have a tragic ending. And ABT's has the most dramatic tragic ending. If Kevin restores the 4th act, it could be the most definitive of all current productions. All current productions have major flaws, let's see if Ratmansky's SL for Zurich and La Scala will end the drought.

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Posted 20 January 2016 - 08:48 PM

Agreed. SL must have a tragic ending. And ABT's has the most dramatic tragic ending. If Kevin restores the 4th act, it could be the most definitive of all current productions. All current productions have major flaws, let's see if Ratmansky's SL for Zurich and La Scala will end the drought.

 

Kent Stowell's production for Pacific Northwest Ballet is very faithful to the original intent, and includes significant chunks of what we understand to be original choreography (as it's been handed down -- he staged this in 2003, before the extensive use of the Stepanov scores)  I have some quibbles with the sets, but the choreography is spot on.  Very effective dance drama. 

 

Odette returns to Rothbart, leaving Siegfried alive but bereft, if we're keeping score.



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Posted 20 January 2016 - 09:24 PM

 

Odette returns to Rothbart, leaving Siegfried alive but bereft, if we're keeping score.

 

But...the original libretto calls for a double suicide, so I don't see how keeping Odette and Siegfried alive can be considered a faithful rendition.  :dunno:



#29 Syrene Hvid

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Posted 25 January 2016 - 06:52 AM

My favourite ending to Swan Lake will forever remain Hübbe & Schandorff's new version (for RDB) where (after Odette has disappeared off-stage, forever cursed to be a swan) Siegfried is forced by Rothbart to marry Odile. The entire political intrigue of it is wonderful, not to mention that there's something haunting about having to live with the consequences of your mistakes in life, rather than those mistakes necessarily leading to your demise.

However, I also really liked the ending to Wright's production for Swedish Royal Ballet. It felt genuine and fittingly dark for the production.

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Posted 25 January 2016 - 10:03 AM

My favourite ending to Swan Lake will forever remain Hübbe & Schandorff's new version (for RDB) where (after Odette has disappeared off-stage, forever cursed to be a swan) Siegfried is forced by Rothbart to marry Odile. The entire political intrigue of it is wonderful, not to mention that there's something haunting about having to live with the consequences of your mistakes in life, rather than those mistakes necessarily leading to your demise.
 

 

Similar to the recovered ending to Giselle (which is in the Pacific Northwest Ballet reconstruction), where Bathilde approaches Albrecht at Giselle's grave, implying that she forgives him.




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