on pointe in Sonnambula?
#1
Posted 18 May 2007 - 06:28 AM
#2
Posted 18 May 2007 - 10:13 AM
This is something that seems impossible, like a curve ball thrown by a major league pitcher. But it did used to happen. Not that the sleeepwalker ever went for a stroll, but she used to manage to carry the poet for three or four steps before disappearing on the way up to her room. For corroboration, there is the incontovertible "Repertory in Review," which says, "she carries his body, alone and unaided, back to the hidden retreat from which she has come." This appears to be one of those scenes, as in Scotch Symphony and Dances at a Gathering, for instances, which have been simplified to make them less taxing and/or dangerous.A friend of a friend maintains that early on Sonambula ended with the ballerina walking off with the man in her arms on pointe. Is this possible?
#3
Posted 18 May 2007 - 11:23 AM
while there have been lengthier and less lengthy a spaces covered by the various ballerinas over the years who danced the sleepwalker, some traveling a few paces some a few more backward into the tower's doorway, i cannot imagine any of them pacing backward on any position other than flat footed, even demi-pointe would seem impossible.
i'm attaching a BALLET RUSSE DE MONTE CARLO publicity photo of A.Danilova's sleepwalker and F. Franklin's poet - sometime after the premiere of this ballet, b/c it's not Magallanes, but while it was still called NIGHT SHADOW.
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#4
Posted 18 May 2007 - 08:28 PM
Well, here goes, and I hope it won't be knocked down as "Hearsay." When Patty McBride retired, at a party at the end of the season, several friends and I asked her that specific question, "are you on pointe when you back out of the room?" because ALL of us remembered it that way......This is something that seems impossible, like a curve ball thrown by a major league pitcher. But it did used to happen. Not that the sleeepwalker ever went for a stroll, but she used to manage to carry the poet for three or four steps before disappearing on the way up to her room. For corroboration, there is the incontovertible "Repertory in Review," which says, "she carries his body, alone and unaided, back to the hidden retreat from which she has come." This appears to be one of those scenes, as in Scotch Symphony and Dances at a Gathering, for instances, which have been simplified to make them less taxing and/or dangerous.A friend of a friend maintains that early on Sonambula ended with the ballerina walking off with the man in her arms on pointe. Is this possible?
And the answer was "No." She also said that many people THINK that that is what they see, but it has never been the case.
#5
Posted 19 May 2007 - 04:07 AM
#6
Posted 19 May 2007 - 04:48 AM
This is in the same category as Fonteyn's first SB in NYC...some claim (among them Robert Helpmann!) that during the Rose Adagio she never took the hand of the fourth prince...I did not see this---and the group of ballet Standees I was with would never have missed it......
#7
Posted 19 May 2007 - 05:28 AM
That's it exactly........memory can play strange tricks!it's just possible that the sleepwalker's memorable entrance and enounter with the poet- almost all of which is on pointe, memorably - acts to prompt those recalling the ballet overall into superimposing the pointe positions on the dramatic exit. but as noted, it's not plausible, once one really thinks about it.
#8
Posted 19 May 2007 - 05:30 AM
I now accept rg's and atm711's accounts as definitive and think I must have been suffering from delusions. So I will change the subject to the matter of the candle light. Though the set is more ornate now than in Night Shadow days, one still follows the light from room to room, as atm711 says, until the curtain falls. But some years ago, before the more ornate set, the light ended up in the sky, promising an eternity of bliss for the sleepwalker and poet, rather than an episode of necrophilia. I wish they'd restore that ending.I saw Danilova and Franklin many times in Night Shadow, and I can assure you I never saw her carry him while on pointe
She was very close to the exit when he was placed in her arms; she disappeared into the wings and what I could see from my usual seat (in the 2nd balcony of the City Center) was a candle light rising up a staircase through the small windows of the set.....
This is in the same category as Fonteyn's first SB in NYC...some claim (among them Robert Helpmann!) that during the Rose Adagio she never took the hand of the fourth prince...I did not see this---and the group of ballet Standees I was with would never have missed it......
#9
Posted 19 May 2007 - 06:25 AM
I do have friends who claim they saw Danilova continue to carry the Poet across the bridge -- but they always say it with a smile.
#10
Posted 19 May 2007 - 07:14 AM
indeed w/the esteban francés decor - i never saw the tanning - the light into the sky was clearly important - i recall arlene croce's dismay (to put it mildly) that when the vaes set came to nycb in the post-balanchine era, not only was there no light in the sky but before it was re-done the set showed no sky above the architecture. (the re-do shows the starlit sky above the clearstory, but still the light fails to leave the building and ascend to the sky, which it would seem it SHOULD do.)
in any case i was no great fan of the francés's setting but it did allow easily for the candle light to float into eternity.
the effect is still possible w/ the new nycb set all that has to be done is to arranage and direct the light from the 'bridge' to the sky.
when this same vaes prod. was first given another crucial detail was missing, that is, to have the entertainers return for the ending in a state of semi-undress - i.e. the women w/ their hair down and the men w/ out masks or full make-up, etc. - but that did get restored sooner than later - prob only b/c someone like croce pointed out the lapse.
#11
Posted 19 May 2007 - 05:25 PM
Thank you all for your interesting replies. I am new here.
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