Name that step...
Posted 19 December 2005 - 12:13 PM
So my question is, is there a name for the position of her arms, where one hand appears to be almost touching the shoulder, bent at the elbow? I've seen this a lot, for example, in the Bluebird pdd from Sleeping Beauty, but have no idea what it's called.
Posted 19 December 2005 - 12:48 PM
Nice pic, though. Thanks for linking to it, BN!
Posted 19 December 2005 - 01:06 PM
it can be used to help beginning dance students, when it's taken by both arms w/ elbows out so each hand touches its respective shoulder, to help guide the spotting for, say chaine turns, but it also has various 'meanings' in different 'schools' of technique and/or in various choreographic contexts, as this post makes note.
as for naming these things, i was told balanchine's answer to various queries for one move/step/pose or another, sometimes went as follows: is not school; is choreography.
Posted 20 December 2005 - 10:50 AM
I've heard that positon called "romantic port de bras" -- Nureyev used to put his hand there in the solo from Corsaire, and it was a gorgeous line.
Mel will have a better answer than this, but till he weighs in, this is what I know.
The position is used in Cecchetti class; and Merce Cunningham uses it in training as well. As RG noted, it sets up the shoulders very well and helps teach how to use the shoulders for turning. Brynar Mehl used to have us do tendus with the hand on the shoulder.
Posted 20 December 2005 - 02:31 PM
Posted 20 December 2005 - 02:50 PM
P.S. Hayden's effect on me during my teen years in the NYCB City Center audience played a big role in making me a life-long ballet lover.
Posted 20 December 2005 - 09:42 PM
Posted 20 December 2005 - 10:06 PM
Posted 21 December 2005 - 10:01 AM
Except in Cunningham, where they also put the hand on the shoulder and then do shoulder circles -- it's part of "the back series" -- it feels REALLY good, it's a great way to open up the clavicle and get the shoulders off the neck
Posted 21 December 2005 - 10:10 AM
the position for the hayden portrait seems more pose, as in a graceful 'attitude' of the arm, than a prescribed positioning from some choreographic moment.
the elbow-straight-out 'classroom' position is much more 'severe' and/or 'clinical' in its way and its purpose.
still this 'main a l'epaule' must come from somewhere specific, at some time, in some 'school' of ballet, etc.
if mem. serves isn't there a similarly posed photo of fonteyn? perhaps hayden was taking her pose from that photo?
Posted 26 December 2005 - 10:00 AM
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