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#31 carbro

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Posted 14 November 2003 - 03:58 PM

Brochure -- I'll definitely look forward to it. Thanks, Dale!

Remembering that the original of this Mozartiana was led by Farrell and Andersen (and their respective sizes) it is reasonable to assume that Stiefel's partner in that (if he does indeed do it this spring) could be Murphy. Their height difference is greater than than of SF and IA. I have no doubt that H. Cornejo will dance the (unpartnered) 2nd man's role.

#32 Dale

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Posted 14 November 2003 - 04:04 PM

carbro, so you think Murphy is taller than Stiefel, even on pointe? I always thought so but an ABT watcher pointed out that she dances a lot taller than she is.

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Posted 14 November 2003 - 04:57 PM

Erm, we're talking here like Ib Andersen was a midget. Alexandra, I think you may know better than I but how tall is Andersen? My guess is 5'11"? The original cast of Mozartiana was two men of similar height and build (Andersen and Victor Castelli, injured before the premiere and Christopher d'Amboise was thrown in) and Farrell. I'll bet you anything ABT follows the Mutt and Jeff casting the ballet has had since Gen Horiuchi took the role.

#34 Roma

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Posted 14 November 2003 - 04:58 PM

I have no doubt that H. Cornejo will dance the (unpartnered) 2nd man's role.

Oh, god forbid. I can just see it, and with Dvorovenko and Belotserkovsy as the leads. There is a cast to see for all the wrong reasons. :blink:

#35 Alexandra

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Posted 14 November 2003 - 05:06 PM

Leigh, I think Ib Andersen is 5'11 (which makes him taller than Farrell by quite a few inches) And I agree that originally the two men were different halves of the same coin (I always forget that D'Amboise first danced the second man; I didn't see him and always remember Castelli). I think the Mutt and Jeff casting spoils the ballet, but in a world desperate for short boy roles.....

#36 zerbinetta

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Posted 14 November 2003 - 05:08 PM

I think Ib is more in the 5'9" to 5'10" range but so slim & light that he seemed slight & Murphy (with rather long feet) is a good deal taller than Stiefel en pointe: partnering by the wrist time.

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Posted 14 November 2003 - 05:10 PM

Andersen is 5'11. (That's what I was told by RDB balletmasters and teachers when I had to check the heights of several Danish dancers of that era.)

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Posted 14 November 2003 - 06:25 PM

Dale,
Thanks for the info regarding the brochure. Can't wait for the Balanchine tribute casting. Maybe, Kevin M. ,have been waiting for this program to finally give us some pleasant surprises for Ms M. and P.
Joe

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Posted 14 November 2003 - 07:03 PM

There is no illness or injury problem with Part or Meunier so far as I have been able to ascertain. They are said to be overweight, which may be true by some criteria, but a) the best way to stay overweight is not to dance and b) there are many danseurs around the world who would have no trouble lifting them.

I only saw Meunier in the Elder Sister's costume, so I don't know exactly what shape she's in, but re: Part in the Harrison, if this be overweight, it is a gorgeous alternative to the extremely spare silhouette favored by many other ABT leads.

I see Murphy as anything but an ideal partner for Stiefel, although he partnered her heroically at the Met last season.

Edited by Thalictum, 14 November 2003 - 07:09 PM.


#40 carbro

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Posted 14 November 2003 - 07:11 PM

carbro, so you think Murphy is taller than Stiefel, even on pointe?  I always thought so but an ABT watcher pointed out that she dances a lot taller than she is.

Actually, Dale, I had thought that on pointe, Murphy would tower over Stiefel, but last spring they danced together many times, and they are a well-matched pair, she on pointe just a tad shorter than he. I remember Farrell on pointe as being close in height to Andersen, probably closer than Murphy and Stiefel. I think that was the point I was trying to make. :blink:

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Posted 14 November 2003 - 07:19 PM

Murphy can't be taller than Stiefel, because I saw her do Don Q when she was a soloist, partnered by Angel Corrella, and I always saw Corrella as a "short" male dancer. She was only about and inch or two taller than him when she was en pointe. Maybe it's just my perception but I thought Stiefel was a considerable amount taller than Corrella. Please correct me if I'm wrong!

And thanks for the brochure info--I'm anxiously awaiting its arrival! :party:


~*~Carmen~*~

#42 Dale

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Posted 14 November 2003 - 07:30 PM

Carbro, I agree with you. They are a well-matched pair. I had always thought she was too tall for him, and expressed this to an ABT fan when they were cast together two years ago for Theme and Variations and Fille. But then I saw that, indeed, she is not as tall as one would think. But then I also thought Nina A. is taller than she actually is (as we discussed on the board earlier in the year). Evidently, toe length makes all the difference. :blink: It would be interesting to see Stiefel in Mozartiana again and, maybe, David Hallberg too.

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Posted 14 November 2003 - 07:42 PM

David Hallberg, YES! :blink: Which would likely mean Michele as his partner, double YES!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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Posted 14 November 2003 - 08:07 PM

Besides height, size of bones, as well as proportions, weight distribution all play a role. Murphy was in streamlined shape last season but Stiefel still had to strain sometimes to lift her.

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Posted 15 November 2003 - 05:25 AM

Concerning the height issue...I have a video tape of Murphy and Stiefel dancing Le Corsaire Pas and Carbo is right that she is a tad 'shorter' then him on pointe (when he's standing without a plie). They danced beautifully together!


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