Question about arms in Corsaire
Posted 21 August 2003 - 02:13 PM
Posted 21 August 2003 - 02:47 PM
Posted 24 August 2003 - 03:13 PM
Posted 26 August 2003 - 03:27 AM
Mel--and this is the reason I have come back to this thread--I think I have found the source of my confusion regarding Eros and the crossbow. It's Caravaggio's Amore vincitore, which I happened to consult this morning. Amor doesn't have any weapon--only his arrows--but in the background is a viola d'amore with its bow laid across it. Clearly a visual pun, and a sort of paraphrase of swords being beaten into ploughshares.
Posted 26 August 2003 - 03:35 AM
Posted 26 August 2003 - 07:28 AM
If Florine were listening to the bluebird, she would surely cup her ear as the Prelude Sylphide does.
But Princess Florina does that--several times as I recall, and she doesn't ever do main a l'epaule. Maybe we're referring to different versions? I'm thinking of the Sergeyev, in which the "warding off" motion also doesn't occur.
Posted 26 August 2003 - 08:07 AM
I have just stumbled across a picture of Preobrajenskaya in Petipa's Bluebeard that might be the unconscious source of my Florine fantasy. She has a white dove (stuffed, I'm afraid) slung between her index and middle fingers, and two white wings on her head, making her both a bird and a bird observer at the same time (Cf. earlier post.) What is striking is that fact that her free hand is a l'epaule, which makes me think that the echappe moment in the var might have a representational meaning after all. The arched line of the hand as it touches the shoulder is like a bird's wing, especially if it droops slightly as Preo's does. It has also occurred to me that Ashton attempted a similar winged profile, much less successfully, through the hands-on-hip line in Les Deux Pigeons.
Posted 26 August 2003 - 08:30 AM
Posted 04 September 2003 - 02:36 PM
Excuse me for going off the topic. But why does the index fingers pointing upward mean China? Where does it come from? Being a Chinese, I've been wondering about it for quite some time.
I think the St Petersburg signifier for China is the index finger held vertically and pointing palm outward (whereas Violente's indices point palm inward)--and I base this on stills from the traditional Benois-designed Festival Casse that was staged, I think, by Beriosova's father. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Anyhow, they show a huge teapot and danseuses en attitude devant on either side, fingers pointing heavenward.
Posted 04 September 2003 - 05:10 PM
Posted 05 September 2003 - 01:49 PM
fascinating! really?! i too wonder where this oddity came from - it never seemed an oddity when i was a child - one 'knew', that that sort of carry-on, onstage, meant that a dance was 'chinese' - but as an adult, one really wonders! :shrug:
In the 17th century, there are engravings of dancers doing a "Danse Chinois" with highly stylized makeup and index fingers pointed upward.
Posted 05 September 2003 - 02:21 PM
After the performance one of my colleagues went back stage and asked if it was a traditional dance or taken from Western sources and was assured that it was an ancient, traditional Chinese dance. That may or may not be true, but there's one anecdote to support the traditional theory.
I hadn't thought about the pointed finger being related to the long fingernails of the mandarins, Mel, but I like the thought I read a quote once that I'm sure you've heard too: "We let others do our dancing for us." (from the Wit and Wisdom of the Mandarins, or something like that)
Posted 05 September 2003 - 06:17 PM
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Posted 05 September 2003 - 06:48 PM
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